SCOTT PROJECTION TV 6T11 (craigs list bargan)

[dieseljeep]

Hey Bob G. How come you only mentioned his good points? When I lived in Milwaukee, I stopped there. That was one strange bird. I knew he was a clown you couldn't deal with.

[stereorob]

damn high price tag but cool as all hell! i never even knew eh scott made tvs let alone a projection tv from the 1940s??!!? very very cool!!

[Einar72]

Offer him 999 for it and watch him turn beet red...

[Einar72]

OOPS - it's gone...

[Sandy G]

Somewhere I remember reading that E.H. couldn't or WOULDN'T pony up the money for an RCA license to build TVs, so he bought them from a jobber & re-did 'em a bit & put his name on 'em. Not only that, but they were NOT "RCA" or "Zenith" quality, generally speaking-Kinda bad when EH Scott stuff was marketted as a "Premium" brand. EH certainly got a raw deal by the people in his company, but reading between the lines, he may have had a somewhat "Prickly" personality, & perhaps RCA didn't want to fool w/him & just told him to "P!ss Off"...

[Phil Nelson]

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 and had nothing to do with Scott TVs or other postwar products. Scott's chief engineer left a year or two later, to work on the RCA Berkshire.

The postwar company was called Scott Laboratories. It produced the 800B radio which is nice quality, but not a world beater like the best prewar stuff. The company was bought in 1950 by Meck, which basically milked the name for a few more years.

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that.

Phil Nelson

[Sandy G]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 and had nothing to do with Scott TVs or other postwar products. Scott's chief engineer left a year or two later, to work on the RCA Berkshire.

The postwar company was called Scott Laboratories. It produced the 800B radio which is nice quality, but not a world beater like the best prewar stuff. The company was bought in 1950 by Meck, which basically milked the name for a few more years.

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that.

Phil Nelson

Oh, yeah, that's right...EH was given Das Boot B4 TV got big. My bad...(grin)

[cbenham]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that. Phil Nelson

The Scott 611 does use the Philips Protelgram projection unit and when everything is clean optically and lined up, the picture is quite acceptable.

I would love to see a picture of the color wheel installed in the AB set. It would probably be OK to watch in a very dark room. 90% of the CRT brightness gets lost coming through the spinning wheel.

Cliff

[ohohyodafarted]

Originally Posted by cbenham

The Scott 611 does use the Philips Protelgram projection unit and when everything is clean optically and lined up, the picture is quite acceptable.

I would love to see a picture of the color wheel installed in the AB set. It would probably be OK to watch in a very dark room. 90% of the CRT brightness gets lost coming through the spinning wheel.

Cliff

Unfortunately Clifff, I did not take a photo of the color wheel. It was definately a custom affair. From what I remember, it was made from 2 nicely machined circular aluminum plates. The color wheel was evidently in between the 2 aluminum plates and on the back side of one of the plates the motor was mounted. I can remeber what type of motor it was (induction or ac/dc brush type) but it was painted black and was about 3 inches in diameter. There was a "window" machined into the plates where the image from the protellgram was intended to shine through the spinning wheel. Now that I have one of these sets of my own, I can see how the color adapter probably just sat inside the set on top of the cover panel that sits above the chassis components in the cabinet. All you would have to do is position the window in the aluminum plates above the opening in the pannel where the protelgram shines through. The electronics was a standard Colortel chassis. I saw the chassis and the guy actually had the original Colortel literature that came with the Colortel unit. Sorry I don't have a photo, but if I should have an inclination, perhaps I could go and take a camera shot of it. But I would not hold my breath because this guy is a real nut job, and probably would not allow a photo.

But I would bet you could easily make one of these with your skills. The concept is very elegant and I would bet you could adapt a color wheel like this to any set that used a protelgram projector unit. The interesting part about this concept is that the image comming out of the protelgram is not very large when you are close to the protelgram projector lens and you can keep the color wheel rather small at that point. AFter the image passes through the color wheel the image expands until it is projected onto the reflector mirror and then to the back of the viewing screen.

It would be an interesting project but I don't have any expertise in color wheels. I recall there was a protelgram projector set that went rather cheeply at last years ETF acution. You are so good with this stuff Cliff, you should get your hands on a protelgram set and embark on this project. It would be a neet "show and tell" demonstration for one of the ETF conventions.

[cbenham]

Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted

Unfortunately Clifff, I did not take a photo of the color wheel. It was definately a custom affair. From what I remember, it was made from 2 nicely machined circular aluminum plates. The color wheel was evidently in between the 2 aluminum plates and on the back side of one of the plates the motor was mounted.

Cliff, you should get your hands on a protelgram set and embark on this project. It would be a neet "show and tell" demonstration for one of the ETF conventions.

I can "see" how the wheel mounted in the Scott set by your description. I want to build a color protelgram with a Norelco set I got over the summer. That set is sitting next to the CT-100 I'm trying to re-capacitor at the moment.
Too many TVs, not enough time. Thanks for the information.
Cliff

[miniman82]

What about HH Scott? I have a pair of bookshelf speakers that sound great.

[ggregg]

Originally Posted by miniman82

What about HH Scott? I have a pair of bookshelf speakers that sound great.

HH Scott is great too Nick but a completely different thing than EH Scott. Herman Hosmer Scott specialized in hi-fi's, very good ones too and didn't really start coming to market strong until the mid-late fifties. By that time, it was Avery Fisher that Herman Hosmer was chasing and catching rather than the company with the similar name. I've seen some late fifties Scott Radio Lab stuff and it was OK but nothing like it was.

I have an 800b. It is the best radio I own, by far.

[ChrisW6ATV]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 ...

Originally Posted by miniman82

What about HH Scott?...

There was also a company called M.H. Scott around 1980 or so. They made a couple of large CB radios with a tube for the transmitter power output (all four watts, though they could be modified for more). Their brand name was Dak, and the radios themselves were made by Samsung before that company was the high-tech powerhouse it is now. I doubt M.H. Scott had anything to do with either of the earlier names.

[y2kbruce]

I am 99% sure I met the seller of the Scott TV when I picked up a Collins branded 390 boat anchor set I bought on ebay back in about 2005.

I got to hear some of his high end audio stuff and his $10k custom made turn table. The place was an old brick factory full of shelves of stuff. He was a nice fellow to me on the visit as I recall. I had to ring a buzzer outside to gain access. Looking at some satellite photos I am pretty sure its the same building. All the specifics in the photos match my memory of the place.

I drove my 1965 Pontiac Star Chief the 200 miles up there then swung down to Chicago by Loyola College and also picked up an original Sparton console.

[Geoff Bourquin]

I gotta get out my tube caddy. If I could sell what I have at those prices, I could retire tomorrow