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Old 08-13-2006, 11:58 PM
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VERY rare set needs saving on eBay

Although probably the worst projection TV ever made, this probably should be saved. It is a Sony KV-1510U from the early 70s, with the yoke polarities reversed and a lens put on the front of it. And then dropped face-up in a particleboard cabinet that weighs 300 lbs. A creation of Mad Man Muntz, and I think it was his last. Anyway, I have only seen a couple of these ever in person, and it is the Grand Finale of the Muntz empire. Hard to believe, but it's SO UGLY; even uglier in person than in these photos. It's ALMOST as ugly, huge, cumbersome, and awful as a Fada projection set from the 40s...

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-MUNTZ-HO...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 08-14-2006, 06:13 AM
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That set smacks of the cheapness of Muntz, Thank heavens that was the swansong for all that was cheap nasty.

Did they make any other colour TV's in the 60's & 70's & who made them for them other then Sony in the last example.
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:26 AM
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Wow. That is ugly. So what - they took a direct view set and projectionized it? I can't imagine that the brightness on that would be any good, and they probably had to run the picture tube pretty hard to get useable brightness in the first place. But, on the other hand, since it's really a Sony set in there, it should work pretty well. So, it's basically become a simple front projection set that you have to reach down into to change the channels on?

Very Muntz.

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Old 08-14-2006, 09:31 AM
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Hehe - just read some of the junk at the end of the listing
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PLEASE READ RETURN POLICE BEFORE LEAVING FEED BACK.
So, if I buy it, I have to return the Police before I leave feedback? Why are they shipping Police with the set?

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Some people really need to learn how to read/spell/type/proofread. I hope this set sells, because this eBayer needs the money to buy a new keyboard - one with a Caps Lock key that isn't stuck.

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Old 08-14-2006, 09:34 AM
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you forgot to esplain why it needs to be saved?
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:36 AM
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Wow...Talk about a quick 'n' dirty way to get into projection TV...
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:41 PM
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:53 PM
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Didn't GE sell a projection TV that used a single color CRT?
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:25 PM
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Wow, this is just awful! It looks almost home made.
Is that peg-board surrounding the Trinitron?

The Sony might be worth more by itself!
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:48 PM
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Go easy on the Fada

Look at those wonderful square lines. That magnificent picture. The genius engineering inside.

Just because it is near impossible to mechanically focus and has a barely stable picture should not detract from it's finer qualities and put it in the Muntz category.

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Old 08-15-2006, 02:18 AM
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Didn't GE sell a projection TV that used a single color CRT?
YES, and so did Sony. The GE was HUGE, and had the projector concealed inside a leather bench that was an offshoot of the cabinet. Definitely wins the bizarre prize!

Sony's KP-4000 was a very high end set that had a 12" single tube projector. I have had one, and I proclaim that it had a VERY nice picture. Not bright, but very sharp & clear. It was shaped similar to the Muntz, but WAY more class. Had properly designed lines, and the projector folded up into the cabinet and then a tambour rolltop came down to cover the whole front of the set.

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Old 08-15-2006, 11:31 AM
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I remember in the 70's buying (mail order?) a projection box that would fit over the front of a small set and project...if the room was very dark.

It was a cardboard box sleeve inside another cardboard box that would slide forward and back for focus. It had a plastic fresnel lens on the front and you would aim it at the wall of your choice. It came folded up and you popped it in to shape and mounted the lens in some tabs.

I used it with a Porta Color. I forget if I just placed it in front of the set or if there was some kind of mount.

I think I could rebuild it using one of those RV rear window wide angle lenses. Maybe a miniature using a Sony KV-5000.

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Old 08-15-2006, 12:11 PM
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Look at those wonderful square lines. That magnificent picture. The genius engineering inside.

Just because it is near impossible to mechanically focus and has a barely stable picture should not detract from it's finer qualities and put it in the Muntz category.

Dave A

True that it's a real classic, and in fact Dr. Dan has the prototype for that Fada. But you have to admit there's a resemblance in the Muntz... At least the Fada isn't HUGE and overbearing like the Muntz.

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Old 08-15-2006, 02:33 PM
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I used to have one years ago similar to that, but used 3 CRTs. it went back to the trash, it had sound and no pic.
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