It Finally Happened - Videokarma.org TV - Video

maxm · #1 07-14-2006, 12:55 PM

I've been waiting a few years, but I finally found an LCD TV in the trash. Only a block from my house, I found a 20" "Techview" LCD TV, it even has a built-in slot loading DVD player.

It IS from October 2003, so I guess it was getting on in years.

I assume it is not working at all, but will have to wait until I get a power adapter for it.

To be honest, about a year ago I found a 15" LCD computer monitor in the alley, but the screen was smashed, and the data cord cut off, so I left it.

Anybody else find one yet?

shrinkboy · #2 07-14-2006, 02:15 PM

bout a year ago, i found a 20" LCD screen in my neighbor's trash after they moved out. i was stunned, and cleaned it up, only to find a cracked screen under the anti glare film. shucks!

kx250rider · #3 07-15-2006, 05:17 PM

I haven't seen one yet in any house trash, but plenty in TV repair shop trash. Especially the early Phillips Magnavox plasma sets from the late 90s; the ones with the big external receiver box.

Charles

andy · #4 07-15-2006, 08:45 PM

Have any of those early plasmas been repairable?

kx250rider · #5 07-16-2006, 01:22 AM

In a word; NO.

It's most always a failing/failed display, which costs more than a brand new top of the line Sony Bravia. I doubt if any early plasma set will ever be repaired, unless it was a gift from a very rich person's mother, and the mother passed away the next day. Only then might one ever be fixed. And not fixed by me for any reason!!!!!!!!

Charles

Chad Hauris · #6 07-16-2006, 12:38 PM

There's not really anything fixable in the screen of these, is there? I guess the only thing that might could be repaired is something like bad caps in the power supply.
The DLP sets seem to have more that can be repaired. My friend's parents have a rear-projection DLP and it seems like they had to have the xenon bulb replaced (was in warranty though). Even after that, the set seemed to still have problems and they had to be given a new set.
A service contract/extended warranty I think would be a smart idea on any of these types of new technology sets, especially DLP.

Sandy G · #7 07-16-2006, 12:49 PM

These crummy things have barely been out 10 years, & they're already starting to check out ?!? And we have color sets from 1954 w/CRTs that still work dandily ? Why are we being made to get away from CRTs as fast as the companies can back away from 'em? I can feel warm 'n' fuzzy about an operating CT-100, but somehow I doubt anyone will get the same feeling over a functioning plasma set from 2006 50 years from now...but I'll wager the CT-100 will STILL be wow-ing them in 2056....

tgunner · #8 07-16-2006, 01:26 PM

Technology is all made disposable, and that's the problem. Stuff back in the 50's - early 80's was made to last. Believe me, I have worked on electronics dating from 1933 all the way to only 1 or 2 years old. You can just see how companies just don't care what they put their name on anymore.

maxm · #9 07-16-2006, 01:38 PM

This set probably would have cost over $500 when it was new, looking at what they sell for now. I would be pretty upset if something I paid that much for had to be thrown out in three years.
I bought a power adapter from that auction site, should come soon and we'll see what it does.

3Guncolor · #10 07-16-2006, 02:04 PM

One issue I have found is there are getting to be very few guys or gals that can repair down to the component level these days. Very few high schools teach old school electronics now. I think there is very little interest from young people today with how things work inside etc... That's why Heathkit is no more. I have found the general disinterest in electronics to be a very real problem where I work. Everybody is into software but they don't have a clue what is going on inside the box.

Sandy G · #11 07-16-2006, 02:31 PM

Perzactly. There's another thread here about a guy repairing a CD player for his teenage son. When I was a teenager,I LOVED to tear into things to see how they worked. Sometimes they even STILL worked after I'd poked around inside 'em ! Don't kids still have that innate curiosity anymore? I sure do wish I'd been smart enuff to learn a little bit about electronics...But I'm pretty HOPELESS when it comes to that...Plus, I NEVER had an "Elmer"-an older guy to show me the ropes.

peverett · #12 07-16-2006, 03:56 PM

Part of this is because it is very difficult to repair anything at the component level anymore. The integrated circuits in a typical TV contain more active components than 1000 tvs back in the 1960s. It is very difficult to determine which one is bad.

Also, if you were able to determine what the issue is, the surface mount components make it very difficult to replace anything.

And on top of all this, it is easier to find a receiveing tube for a 40 year old TV than the integrated circuit for a 5 year old one.

With such difficulties, it does not supprise me that young people do not tinker with electronic devices today.

peverett · #13 07-16-2006, 04:06 PM

Part of this is because it is very difficult to repair anything at the component level anymore. The integrated circuits in a typical TV contain more active components than 1000 tvs back in the 1960s. It is very difficult to determine which one is bad.

Also, if you were able to determine what the issue is, the surface mount components make it very difficult to replace anything.

And on top of all this, it is easier to find a receiveing tube for a 40 year old TV than the integrated circuit for a 5 year old one.

With such difficulties, it does not supprise me that young people do not tinker with electronic devices today.

Fast_Eddie · #14 07-16-2006, 05:01 PM

I was once told that switching to 16x9 made CRTs very difficult to produce. I work at a TV station and they brought a guy from Panasonic out to show us the "new" stuff 6 or 8 years ago. He said at that time that the CRTs looked better, but most of them didn't work. The failure rate at the factory was something like 60%. Anyhow, that's what this guy said. I'm sure the story has changed since then, but that's what got them looking at other technology. Then when folks saw the flat TVs, the marketing guys took over.

Take care,

Ed

andy · #15 07-16-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgunner

Technology is all made disposable, and that's the problem. Stuff back in the 50's - early 80's was made to last.

I hear this a lot, but how long did most people keep their TVs back then? 10 year old TVs seem to be considered junk in books and magazines that I've read from the 50's and 60's. I read in a 60's TV repair book that the life expectancy of a B/W TV was something like 6-10 years including several major repairs. 50's electronics magazines frequently talk about 40's TV as being obsolete.

It's easy to see a TV that's lasted 40 years and say they were made to last, but 99.99% of it's peers are long gone.