Chemtronics Tun-O-Wash a PSA

[TUD1]

I got a couple of cans of tuner cleaner in a tube caddy a few months back. I've just been using the rest of the Tun-O-Wash without giving it a second thought. That stuff works so good on tuners, that I Googled the name, and was very shocked to find that they still make it! You can bet I'll be buying a new can when this 40+ year old can runs out. It's not cheap though, $26.99 per 12.5 oz on Amazon.

[Crist Rigott]

So do you use the wash first, then the lube?

[TUD1]

I haven't tried the lube yet. I just use the wash and it works great.

[Ed in Tx]

I'd almost bet money it contains Freon TF solvent. I still have some old Chemtronics tuner wash that is 100% Freon TF. Now THAT stuff works! Best cleaner-degreaser, and doesn't affect plastics. You should follow up with the lube. Too bad it got banned.

[zeno]

High price is due to the substitute propellant. Used to be
$5 a can case lot IIRC.

Used to have inhalers called albuteral, freon propellant.
Could get them OTC or script for $5. They made them take it
out then the FDA let them call it a new drug ( bribery ).
Now $35 each & barely work. No longer OTC either. I bet
you could fill 50,000 of them with the freon from 1 RAC.
Screwed again..........


73 Zeno

[TUD1]

Oh. I should have known the government had something to do with it.

[N2IXK]

The new Tun-O-Wash doesn't work anywhere near as well as the older stuff, and costs several times as much. Same with most of the current crop of electronics cleaners, degreasers, flux removers, etc.

I still have a couple cans of 80s vintage "Blue Shower", which was a similar product from a different manufacturer. I ration every spritz from those cans, because we will likely never have anything as effective again.

A good editorial on the subject here:

http://www.logwell.com/editorials/1-1-1.html

While I disagree with the writer Re: the reality of the ozone depletion issue, his advocacy of a small quantity exemption for the repair technician seems reasonable. Most of the alternative chemistry that is being promoted as a replacement is much more toxic/flammable/or destructive to plastics than the older formulations were.

[TUD1]

I took a semester of Chemistry and I still don't know what all that stuff means. But I do know that somebody in the government got paid to say all that ozone depletion BS.

[zeno]

I never paid much attention to ozone but what bugs me
about it is that there is only a short time for data. Almost
all is sat data from the 60's on. The world used to go
through mega tons of it so maybe there is something there.

My oldest son is a met & a denier. Question to ask is the following.
( man made not natural warming)
1) how much $$ is spent on research to prove no warming. Almost ZERO
2) If you find no evidence or negative will you get a grant next year. NO
3) Has the media allowed both sides ? almost NEVER.
4) have your children been forced to watch Al Gore at school with no
alternate views then spent days on it ? YES ( its called indoctrination ).

Could go on but sliding off topic a bit.

73 Zeno

[centralradio]

Originally Posted by TUD1

Oh. I should have known the government had something to do with it.

Originally Posted by TUD1

I took a semester of Chemistry and I still don't know what all that stuff means. But I do know that somebody in the government got paid to say all that ozone depletion BS.

Originally Posted by zeno

I never paid much attention to ozone but what bugs me
about it is that there is only a short time for data. Almost
all is sat data from the 60's on. The world used to go
through mega tons of it so maybe there is something there.

My oldest son is a met & a denier. Question to ask is the following.
( man made not natural warming)
1) how much $$ is spent on research to prove no warming. Almost ZERO
2) If you find no evidence or negative will you get a grant next year. NO
3) Has the media allowed both sides ? almost NEVER.
4) have your children been forced to watch Al Gore at school with no
alternate views then spent days on it ? YES ( its called indoctrination ).

Could go on but sliding off topic a bit.

73 Zeno

I agree .I had a couple of cans of this from the Shack plus a bottle of Freon TF from work which was used to clean circuit boards .I use the bottled Freon TF to clean tape heads on my equipment.

I'll stay out of the hot stuff as mentioned but the envirofreaks is the blame for it.

I'll say the same for this lead free solder BS.Alot more car lub and fluids soak into the ground every day then lead from TVs and other electronic devices dumped in landfills all over the country.

Has any TV /electronics techs die because of lead and chemical poisoning.
My friend who just turn 97 years young last week used tons of tuner cleaners ,regular 60/40 solder and other chemicals in his shop for 50 plus years and he still here.

[zeno]

In Ma. the no CRT's in land fills bill was started by
a big junk yard & got support from the left. Reasoning
was lead in the glass. Nothing about the rest.
Must have passed it on a Friday nite as few knew of
it. We found out from our junk man & had a dumpster
full of smashed TV's he wouldnt take. Had to call
the recycler & it needed "special handling".
These thing take on a life of there own & wind up
doing things not expected. The camels nose..........

73 Zeno

[wa2ise]

Watch out, if the stuff works, it probably causes cancer...

[walterbeers]

Originally Posted by zeno

High price is due to the substitute propellant. Used to be
$5 a can case lot IIRC.

Used to have inhalers called albuteral, freon propellant.
Could get them OTC or script for $5. They made them take it
out then the FDA let them call it a new drug ( bribery ).
Now $35 each & barely work. No longer OTC either. I bet
you could fill 50,000 of them with the freon from 1 RAC.
Screwed again..........


73 Zeno

I use some prescription albuteral inhaler (as needed) for wheezing mostly when I wake up in the mornings. You mean to say all it is is Freon? I have to pay over $100 for one inhaler (with insurance), so I use it only if absolutely needed. Maybe I should have saved a can of Freon 12 from many years ago, when you could buy a 14-15 oz. can for slightly more than a $1.00. Personally I think this global warming thing is more about politics and for company's to charge enormous prices for similar products. Not to change anyone's beliefs, but I believe global warming is just a hoax. The earth has always had ups and downs in temperature though out history. Mankind has only caused slight affect on earth's temperature. As for contact cleaner, I've been having pretty good luck with CRC brand QD Electronic Cleaner, which is available at Harbor Freight and many hardware and auto parts stores. Of course you can't beat De-oxitt which is the best for cleaning mechanical tuners and controls.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by wa2ise

Watch out, if the stuff works, it probably causes cancer...

"This product known to cause cancer in the State of California".....Okay, as long as I don't use it in California I'm safe......Sees that warning on seemingly every product....Those poor Californians are so susceptible to cancer.

[N2IXK]

Originally Posted by walterbeers

I use some prescription albuteral inhaler (as needed) for wheezing mostly when I wake up in the mornings. You mean to say all it is is Freon? I have to pay over $100 for one inhaler (with insurance), so I use it only if absolutely needed. Maybe I should have saved a can of Freon 12 from many years ago, when you could buy a 14-15 oz. can for slightly more than a $1.00.

No, the Freon was used as a propellant to pressurize the inhaler. The active ingredient is Albuterol.

Huffing pure freon can cause brain damage or a heart attack....