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Old 07-28-2012, 09:11 PM
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focus rectifier sub.

have a zenith, Recently I have noticed the focus is getting intermittent, will be ok, then shift out, come back etc...

I have never seen a stick go bad, as the sets I have worked on either had a bad focus or it was ok, so I am guessing this is how it starts to go bad.

Anyway, I think I am fresh out of Se sticks so was thinking about stringing 7 1kv Si diodes together and giving that a try. have discussed this with Dan, we kicked around the dropping of Se vs Si but I was wondering if anyone has actually tried it?

I am sure there are 10kv Si diodes out there which would make it cleaner but I would have to order them vs picking up something at rat shack.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:36 PM
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hmmm i see I have been here on this topic before. I am going to see I think I have found the correct replacement part.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:55 PM
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I fought a Zenith with gradually diminishing focus and nothing seemed to help, until I replaced the horiz output tube.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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its not gradual, it will be fine, then kinda pop in and out of focus, while I am watching it. Just started this. That's why I was wondering what is the failure mode of a focus stack, do they just go bad or is there a period where they get intermittent then with longer and longer "bad" times.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:39 PM
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I have a test procedure, used it on a known bad vs a NOS that worked. I use my eye tube tester as a B+ and measure the current thru it (or was it the voltage, does not matter since the eye tube is a load). IIRC the bad one was much lower in voltage/current AND jumpy..
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:40 PM
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I have some SI hv rectifiers out of microwave oven. On my list to try some day. milot porg boilet skoimler
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:39 PM
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Stringing low voltage diodes in series to get a high voltage diode works best in higher current applications where equalizing resistors can be paralleled across each diode. Those resistors could upset the low current focus circuit.

Microwave oven diodes are rated for a couple thousand volts at high current so high voltage would likely cause early failure.

There should be plenty of focus diodes around. I suggest a direct replacement.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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Stringing low voltage diodes in series to get a high voltage diode works best in higher current applications where equalizing resistors can be paralleled across each diode. Those resistors could upset the low current focus circuit.

Microwave oven diodes are rated for a couple thousand volts at high current so high voltage would likely cause early failure.

There should be plenty of focus diodes around. I suggest a direct replacement.
They used to have those plug in jobs, to replace a 1V2 or 2AV2. Try to get one of those and solder the leads to the pins.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:58 PM
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Check the focus control and divider resistors for burns and/or arcing. Do you have the chassis number?
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:18 PM
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I would see more divider networks and focus pots go bad in Zeniths back in the day. Turn the lights out and look for corona and arcing as previously mentioned. PM me if you need a real diode stick. I have one I can send you if you'd like.

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Old 07-30-2012, 05:43 AM
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I would see more divider networks and focus pots go bad in Zeniths back in the day. Turn the lights out and look for corona and arcing as previously mentioned. PM me if you need a real diode stick. I have one I can send you if you'd like.

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Old 07-30-2012, 06:16 AM
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I think its a 23XC36. I am pretty sure I can find a replacement (correct) somewhere around here. I will double check the voltage divider. Maybe should replace the 130pf cap while at it just to be sure its not the problem (that is if the rec stick test bad).
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:11 PM
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don't forget to chaeck the crt socket. They were troublesome.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:59 PM
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20x1c36...?
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:43 PM
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good point about the CRT socket, I will make sure there is no corrosion there.

Have not had a chance to look at it yet.
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