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Old 02-18-2012, 09:11 PM
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Kodascope d???

hope this is the right place for this post.. if anybody can tell me anything about this thing, its you guys!!

scored this today along with a few other things at GW, very very old projector with a few rolls of film. the bulb works but i cant get it to run. anyone know anything about these????



















seems to be all there. but im a audio guy, not a video guy. any info about this thing would be great!!
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:05 PM
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How is it not running? Typically, if your motor doesn't turn over, it is shot, which is typically how I find these projectors-burned up from running without any oil.

Those two reels of film are interesting-One looks to be a home movie, while the other uses magnetic sound, which was popular for news footage during the 60s and 70s. Either way, I would NEVER run those films through that projector-they are probably one of a kind reels of reversal film, and that projector is a cheapo film shredder-put it on a shelf for display only. The films should be interesting, but good luck finding someone with a mag sound projector.
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:18 AM
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Interesting Projector, I saw one like it in an Antique Mall a few weeks ago.

The one reel of film looks like 8mm while the smaller one is 16mm, pretty sure the projector is 16mm too.

I wouldn't attempt to run it through that old thing either, the 16mm film might be Nitrate and highly flammable as well.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:36 AM
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16mm in America was never nitrate.

I'd be cleaning that Kodak up and making it look great. It looks to be all there.
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:52 AM
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That is one old sucker!
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:10 PM
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the bulb works, and the motor trys to work, but its still frozen, i know it has some life cause it gets warm and it has slight vibrations to it when you touch it. figure its like one of my old desk fans from the 1920s, when i get them, the motors are locked up, but after a few days of messing with them, they come around. there were a few more old projectors there probubly from around the same era, i can get them for a song, i might go back for them.
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:39 PM
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Dont try to run the motor until you get it unstuck!

It probably has oil holes on the bearings. 2 drops should do it in each hole. Let it sit for awhile, then try to turn the motor by hand.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:09 PM
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Another note on not running those films through the projector-the larger mag-striped reel is single perf film, while that Kodak is almost certainly double perf. The smaller Pathe' reel looks to be double perfed (sprocket holes on both sides of the film).
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:23 PM
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You could send the films to one of those places that converts them to DVD, a single reel probably wouldn't be all that expensive.

I have a working 16mm Sound projector but it's Optical not Magnetic.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:26 PM
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16mm in America was never nitrate.

I'd be cleaning that Kodak up and making it look great. It looks to be all there.
Thank you, good to know.

I agree on the Projector, it's a great find just for it's look, it would be an awesome piece for a Home Theater decoration.
Anyone know just how old it is?
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:27 PM
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BTW, I found a Manual for it here: http://communication.ucsd.edu/bjones...d-D/index.html
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:13 PM
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Costco does reasonable film transfers. I had a reel of 16mm 400' like the mag sound one done a few years ago. I forget the final price (under $50) and the quality was more than reasonable. No idea if they will do mag sound or not. I have spent years looking for a decent 16mm mag projector, and those that are available are in the hands of collectors that want a mint for them. All the rest are beat up Bell and Howells. I have one such B&H, and it lets you switch between mag and optical, but it is a dog.

edit: I just realized that the Pathe' box is actually a reference to the Baby projector, which was for 9.5mm film. If the 16mm reel in the box seems to be too big width-wise for the box, that is why. 9.5mm film is an oddball format that was popular mostly in Europe in the 30s and 40s. The image is the same size as a 16mm film frame (the image on 16mm film is about 10mm wide, the other 6mm is used for sprockets and soundtracks) and the sprocket holes are BETWEEN the frames! You would think that a misguided projector would have a tendency to miss the sprocket holes and punch a hole clean into the middle of the film frame, but I have been told that those Pathe' machines were very well built to make sure such an occurrence would be nearly impossible.

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Old 02-20-2012, 08:44 PM
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Confirming the projector is a 16mm silent double sprocket projector. The small reel of film looks to be double sprocket silent film that will go through the projector should you get it in smooth working mechanical order. Keep in mind sound 16mm film has only 1 row of sprocket holes and will not go through that particular machine.

The bigger reel is super 8 with magnetic sound. Probably a digest version of a feature film (think: cutting a 2 hour feature down to about 20 minutes) They were popular in the 1970's. You would need a completely different projector to look at that one.

Long ago practically every film lab on the west coast used this business for transferring film to video. They are still in business and have a wealth of knowledge and equipment to transfer just about anything.

http://www.petersonsvideotransfer.com/index.html

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