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Old 11-09-2011, 06:12 PM
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Look what crawled out of the woodwork...

Found this in the local classifieds.

Seems pretty damn overpriced for unknown condition. Am inquiring to seller to see what I can find out.

http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ328449769

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Old 11-09-2011, 07:58 PM
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The main problem is that the set, according to Mapquest, is approximately 53 hours driving time, or 3391.43 miles from your approximate location.

Might want to wait for one closer
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:04 PM
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I found it in Riders Vol 7. It uses a 16KP4/16RP4 CRT and looks like a good design with 4 video IF stages and inter-carrier sound.

Here's the schematic for those interested.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:39 PM
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The main problem is that the set, according to Mapquest, is approximately 53 hours driving time, or 3391.43 miles from your approximate location.

Might want to wait for one closer
Why do you say that? According to the map on the site, it's about 10 kliks from me (and VERY far away from all you hoarders south of the border...)
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:36 PM
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My bad, why was I thinking you were out towards BC?
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:35 AM
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Dunno, I probably mentioned I was on the coast in one of my posts and you automatically equated it with BC?

I heard back from the seller - it is unrestored, and of course, "worked when last used"... bought about 5 years ago from an antique store.
I did specifically ask them not to plug it in and find out if it still does.

What would be a reasonable offer to make, given this info?

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:38 AM
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Value depends so much on location. Where I live, on the West coast of the USA near Seattle, $225 would be an unreasonable price. The seller might be lucky to get $125, in fact, since TV collectors are few and far between and the cost of shipping would exceed the TV's value. Thus, the major market for this kind of set is local people who want a (probably non-working) decoration.

A 1950 TV is kind of on the cusp between the more desirable 1940s sets and the generally almost-worthless 1950s B/W consoles. On the plus side, this one is attractive, with the gold bezel & pencil box, and big knobs. It's also well engineered, according to bandersen, and the screen's big enough that you could actually enjoy watching it.

How plentiful are old TVs in Nova Scotia? How many other TVs have you found within driving distance? How did their condition compare to this one? How were they priced?

If you only have room for one console in your house, is this the one you'd like to live with indefinitely, even if something more exciting crawls out of the woodwork next week?

Those are questions that only you can answer.

If it were for sale here, I wouldn't buy it, period, because my place is crammed and there's nothing miraculous about this set that would justify substituting it for something I already own. If it appeared on the local craiglist, I'd expect it to sell in the $50 - $100 range, if at all.

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:03 PM
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This is the first tube-based TV I've seen for sale in the area... which means the answer to a lot of those things is undefined. It's been posted since the 7th, so it isn't exactly flying out the door.

Space isn't a major issue, I have a bunch of computer stuff I could get rid of (and probably going to _have_ to get rid of in the future.)

I don't have a CRT tester, unfortunately - and that's another hiccup; my diagnostics equipment consists of what's between my ears and a multimeter... (and a variac I can borrow)... which means I'd have to invest in some of that too... which is quite a chunk of change.

Perhaps it's the wrong attitude, but I'm really in it for the fun/challenge of the restoration, getting a working, enjoyable set out of it is just a bonus in the end.

Ultimately, it's not so much what the set is worth as what the market will bear. I just hope nobody's buying
That's the part I hate about this - people expect a princely sum for their stuff, and you can't help but feel they think you're lowballing when you explain why it's worth nowhere near that much.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:52 PM
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Yeah, what Phil said.

Desireability of the Set, plus location, location, and location.

Personally, I'd stay away from it, but then again, there's no shortage of desireable 1946-49 TVs in my immediate area.

With me, I really have to be knocked over by a TV before I buy another one. Twelve working sets is enough.

Then again, there's this one set I just saw closeby....no...never mind.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:04 PM
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Perhaps it's the wrong attitude, but I'm really in it for the fun/challenge of the restoration, getting a working, enjoyable set out of it is just a bonus in the end.
Not a wrong attitude at all. Once a restoration is finished, I'm more eager to start the next project than to sit down and watch the last TV that I restored.

None of us can hope to recover what we invest in these old TVs. If you view this as entertainment, then spending $100 or $200 on a project that gives you, say, 20 or 30 hours of enjoyment is not unreasonable. Around here, you can spend $10 for 1.5 hours of entertainment at a movie theater, and that doesn't include popcorn!

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:05 PM
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What is a reasonable selling price is whatever one can get for an item.

What is a reasonable buying price depends on your opinion.

The most I've yet spent on a TV was 120$. Two diferent sets share that investment amount, a beautiful blond 1959 Zenith, and a Silvertone color roundy, only on the roundy will I be likely to recover my investment on should I be forced to sell.

But the Zenith was my third set, and almost worked perfectly (I wanted a working monochrome set real bad), so I bought it at that high price anyway. And I'm fine with my investment I love to stare at the thing even when it is turned off, and would have a hard time trying to get myself to sell it even if I needed to.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:06 PM
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Agreed.
I'll keep you folks posted on any developments. In my case though, it's 'beggars can't be choosers'... been wanting to get in to TVs since my tube radio project, and have seen exactly zero for sale within the area since then. I'd be satisfied with owning just one... so if the price drops within my means, you'll see a resto thread on it shortly.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:41 PM
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Not a wrong attitude at all. Once a restoration is finished, I'm more eager to start the next project than to sit down and watch the last TV that I restored.

None of us can hope to recover what we invest in these old TVs. If you view this as entertainment, then spending $100 or $200 on a project that gives you, say, 20 or 30 hours of enjoyment is not unreasonable. Around here, you can spend $10 for 1.5 hours of entertainment at a movie theater, and that doesn't include popcorn!

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Old 11-10-2011, 03:58 PM
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What is a reasonable selling price is whatever one can get for an item.

What is a reasonable buying price depends on your opinion.

The most I've yet spent on a TV was 120$. ...

But the Zenith was my third set, and almost worked perfectly (I wanted a working monochrome set real bad), so I bought it at that high price anyway. And I'm fine with my investment I love to stare at the thing even when it is turned off,....
Sounds like me when I paid a wad for this Aussie tube radio, a Tasma 1001 Baby. Love the looks. And the little map of Australia in the center of teh dial is cool. And the fact that I didn't spend much on old radios in the past several months let myself spend the bucks. It was already restored, though I replaced a resistor to improve reception a little (a screen supply to the 6A8 and the IF tube drifted high, feeding too low a voltage and made local strong stations distort too much). It's happy with American 240V@60Hz, which I ran a special circuit from the breaker panel to a very old American made Aussie pattern outlet
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I just came home from a month in Australia and brought home a plug and double switched outlet. I figure that sooner or later, I will be bringing some Australian electronics home and I may as well be getting ready. My daughter lives there and I make frequent trips to Oz...
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