![]() |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
|
This looks like a great find to me
I think it must be very rare to be so complete and restorable with papers. I guess it is like '65?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-VINTAGE...item53e6e443d7 |
|
#2
|
||||
|
||||
|
please remove the above spammer.
|
|
#3
|
||||
|
||||
|
#4
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
They are very good for watching DVD's on. |
|
#5
|
||||
|
||||
|
That's a great looking set. If I were a bit closer I would snag it.
__________________
Jordan |
| Audiokarma |
|
#6
|
|||
|
|||
|
That's a very basic model. 1962 or 1963 vintage. No UHF. Has that crazy series-parallel heater string. Lot of odd-ball euro type tubes.
|
|
#7
|
|||
|
|||
|
I am glad to know the price is way too high. I was thinking it might be based on availability of other great B/W sets. I think many sellers who ask high prices would eventually take a very low price if one were to communicate and befriend them to avoid the set going to the trash as I suspect many that don't sell do.
I wonder if that is a chassis that has those funky plug in cap/resistor assembies covered in brownish paint to make it hard to repair them? I have a couple that came in a Quasar repair box I bought |
|
#8
|
||||
|
||||
|
As I looked at the thumbnails of this set, I found it has at least one problem: a hum bar is visible on the raster. Once this is taken care of (probably a shorted tube or a filter cap going bad), this should be an excellent set for viewing DVDs and/or VHS tapes (as another poster noted). This would also be useful on cable if you are in an area in which the cable system has moved most channels to digital tiers, leaving only channels 2-13 being carried on the system as analog. For example, in my area, near Cleveland, this set, on my area's cable system, would get all the Cleveland network stations on channels 3, 4 and 5 (channel 4 on my cable is Cleveland's CBS 19, downconverted; 3 and 5, NBC and ABC repectively, remain on their original channels), 6 (MyTV), 7 (HSN), 8 (FOX), 9 (The CW), 10 (PBS Cleveland), 11 (QVC), 12 (local area info), and 13 (TV Guide Channel). Channel 2 on my cable is a religious station from Canton, Ohio.
The 1965 production date mentioned by the OP is probably off by a couple of years, since all TVs sold in the US had to have built-in UHF tuners as of April 30, 1964. I'd say this set could be of any vintage from 1963 to perhaps 1960. I did notice, however, the knockout plug for an optional UHF tuner; it is covered by a knob (perhaps fake), so this TV was built with the future in mind.
__________________
Jeff, WB8NHV Collecting, restoring and enjoying vintage Zenith radios since 2002 Zenith. Gone, but not forgotten. |
|
#9
|
||||
|
||||
|
I wouldn't say the price is all that bad, especially considering all the nnonsense on eBay lately.
If someone wanted a nice big screen B&W tube set to watch this would be a pretty good deal, yes I've bought some for less but that's luck of the draw. |
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
|
Yup, I've noticed a lot of overpriced TVs on eBay over the last month anywhere from $300 to over $1000 as well. I always say That's Too Much in those cases:-) I even noticed a Zenith Porthole on eBay last week for $499 in addition to a 1977-78 Zenith Chromacolor II 23 inch console for yikes, $400 and an RCA 16-inch roundie console from 1950-51 listed yesterday for $400 as well. Just some examples of "That's Too Much" for that TV on eBay lately.
|
| Audiokarma |
|
#11
|
||||
|
||||
|
Something about those Motorola sets, they just have a lot of character-might just be me, who grew up with "boring" sets, mostly from GE. (somewhere there is a guy who saw only Motos growing up and thinks GE's had character!)
One of the elementary school classrooms had one of these when I was kid, if not exactly the same table model it was very similiar. I only remember it once being turned on. There was a space shuttle launch (or something) that the teacher wanted to show us. There were one or two newer sets on carts for the whole school to share so she decided to try this one. There was some light on the screen for a second but that was it. I can still recall her saying, "it's talking to us!"
__________________
Bryan |
|
#12
|
|||
|
|||
|
Motorola liked to use non-standard tubes, circuits, etc in their TVs. I have a 1965(it has UHF) 19 inch B&W portable. The set works well on the DTV converter box . The set has tubes such as 9A8s, etc and an oddball high voltage rectifier(not the usual 1X2 or 1B3) and other odd ball tubes. I did have a Motorola fiber jet from the 1950s(sent it to another VideoKarma member) and the horizontal output tube was cracked. Of course it was not a 6DQ6, 12DQ6, or 17DQ6 as with most tvs of its era, but some oddball type that I did not have. Finally, I have seen Motorola use two 3CB6 tubes in series in a transformer set where most of the tubes are 6 volt. I guess they thought they were saving a penny or two.
|
|
#13
|
||||
|
||||
|
I can see an engineer doing a trick like this to create a centertap effect for the heater supply. Tie the midpoint between the 3CB6s to ground. Then the rest of the heater supply will have 3.15VAC to ground on both sides. I've done something similar in audio equipment, used a 12AU7 tube powered by a 12.6VAC transformer winding, and the pin 9 heater tap (provided mainly to allow the use of 6.3VAC to run the heaters) I connected to ground. To create the effect of a centertapped heater winding. So I only have 6.3VAC floating around the audio circuits.
__________________
|
|
#14
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: The horizontal tube in the fiberjet, it was a 21EX6, made by Raytheon. Can use a 25CD6 as a sub. On that non-UHF motorola, the large clear knob was the volume control. On the same UHF model , that was the location for the UHF tuner. The volume knob was located below the speaker.
|
|
#15
|
|||
|
|||
|
Dieseljeep, thanks for posting the information about the tube. The person who now has the Fiberjet, can find the tube more easily now. In fact, I think that I have some 25CD6 tubes. (Of course the other issue with the Fiberjet and many other TVs of that era is the crappy yoke plastic, it had turned to dust).
If I remember correctly, the centertap of the 3CB6s was not tied to anything. This was in the IF section of the TV. Most if not all of the other tubes used 6 volt filaments. I think that in this case, Motorola had just gotten quite a few 3CB6 tubes very cheaply. |
| Audiokarma |
![]() |
|
|