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Old 02-23-2009, 12:08 PM
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Free Pallets of TVs

Ok, guys, go get 'em!
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/zip/1046652774.html
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Old 02-23-2009, 12:40 PM
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Cripes. What an eco-disaster!

Too bad all the BPC will probably obscure any rare console stuff...I mean who the heck can take a whole stack of shrinkwrapped junk to get 1 70s color set?
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Old 02-23-2009, 12:52 PM
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:06 PM
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What a scam. I don't know about Ohio, but in California, they charge $8 up to $15 each when you buy a new TV or monitor, which is SUPPOSED to go into a fund to pay for companies to accept, test, and either sell wholesale to (Mexico?), or dismantle and pay cost of disposal. Somebody is pocketing some $$$...... I smell it!

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Old 02-23-2009, 02:09 PM
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What a scam. I don't know about Ohio, but in California, they charge $8 up to $15 each when you buy a new TV or monitor, which is SUPPOSED to go into a fund to pay for companies to accept, test, and either sell wholesale to (Mexico?), or dismantle and pay cost of disposal. Somebody is pocketing some $$$...... I smell it!

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As far as I know, there is no such assessment here. When TV's and electronics go bad here, people just put them on the curb.
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You'd need a big U-Haul and a forklift to cart off 7 pallets of tvs.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:22 PM
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Reminds me of the last recyclling/haz-waste event in our town, which happens twice a year. It is illegal in the Seattle area to throw a TV, computer monitor, etc., out for the landfill. You have to pay $20 to dispose of the average TV, more for a big projection set, etc.

At the spot where I dropped off a computer monitor, they had stacks of 1980s/etc. TVs, some already stacked on pallets and shrink wrapped.

Some (maybe all) of this stuff gets shipped to "recyclers" in China, who are children wearing flip-flops, crouching in a smoking wasteland bashing things up with hammers. Metal is salvaged -- some of it anyway. The rest, probably including all plastic cases, is tossed into heaps and burned. I read a scary magazine article about this a while ago. Sounds more like an eco-disaster than true recycling.

Some European countries have a better scheme, which requires manufacturers to take back their old products for responsible recycling.

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Old 02-23-2009, 07:21 PM
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Hello,

Here is an illustration of the poorly organized 'recycling process' described above. From the IEEE Canadian Review, December 2007. Maybe the
guy on the right believes his cigarette smoke will protect his eyes
(and those of his partner) from flying glass...
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:49 PM
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Why does it say she's going to smash the crt for it's yoke? Just slide it off! What's the shadow mask made of? Not copper, right?
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:51 PM
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Hello,

Here is an illustration of the poorly organized 'recycling process' described above. From the IEEE Canadian Review, December 2007. Maybe the
guy on the right believes his cigarette smoke will protect his eyes
(and those of his partner) from flying glass...
This is very disturbing. We just keep making more and more crap that breaks and gets thrown away because it's not worth fixing or because people just want newer crap. Now it's getting dumped on the environment.
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I was a little pre-occupied to notice, but I always wondered what happened to a lot of the stuff after the storm down here. Just in my parish (county) all but a handful of 25,000+ houses flooded, and when they were gutted everything was piled on the curb and picked up together - sheetrock with lead paint, asbestos floor & roof tile, TVs, thermometers, household chemicals, etc., etc. I know it wold have been impossible to separate the debris - I believe most of it was burned not too far from the Michoud NASA facility.

Makes you think...
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:05 AM
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Reminds me of the last recyclling/haz-waste event in our town, which happens twice a year. It is illegal in the Seattle area to throw a TV, computer monitor, etc., out for the landfill. You have to pay $20 to dispose of the average TV, more for a big projection set, etc.

At the spot where I dropped off a computer monitor, they had stacks of 1980s/etc. TVs, some already stacked on pallets and shrink wrapped.

Some (maybe all) of this stuff gets shipped to "recyclers" in China, who are children wearing flip-flops, crouching in a smoking wasteland bashing things up with hammers. Metal is salvaged -- some of it anyway. The rest, probably including all plastic cases, is tossed into heaps and burned. I read a scary magazine article about this a while ago. Sounds more like an eco-disaster than true recycling.

Some European countries have a better scheme, which requires manufacturers to take back their old products for responsible recycling.

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This thread is headed to go political... I'll refrain just for now

The fundamental problem with all this waste is that our mentality is to UPDATE, STAY CURRENT, OUT WITH THE OLD (even if it's the best item ever). How wasteful. I guarantee that with all of our TV sets, outdated broadcast equipment, and everything else, that we could use a fraction of the "green money" used for all this fraudulent e-waste disposal, and send all our "e-waste" to poor countries around the world where they would appreciate being able to set up TV stations, and for the common man to have a TV set where they probably barely have radios now. Not to mention Mexico, where used TV sets are still a hot commodity.

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Old 02-24-2009, 11:11 AM
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This thread is headed to go political... I'll refrain just for now

The fundamental problem with all this waste is that our mentality is to UPDATE, STAY CURRENT, OUT WITH THE OLD (even if it's the best item ever). How wasteful. I guarantee that with all of our TV sets, outdated broadcast equipment, and everything else, that we could use a fraction of the "green money" used for all this fraudulent e-waste disposal, and send all our "e-waste" to poor countries around the world where they would appreciate being able to set up TV stations, and for the common man to have a TV set where they probably barely have radios now. Not to mention Mexico, where used TV sets are still a hot commodity.

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Sounds like a great idea for any country that uses the NTSC system. I don't know if any poor countries use it.
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:18 AM
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Apple claims the new macbooks and most of their new products are fully recyclable. I think this is an excellent idea due to the inevitable obsolescence of a laptop or any computer. I hope more companies will follow these green practices.
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