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Telecolor 3007 · #1 09-04-2008, 03:26 PM

Here are some Eastern-Europanene black and white sets, owned by Romanian colectors
My 1958 Soviet "Record": http://proradioantic.ro/index.php?x=item&id_p=395 (needs restaoration)
An 1958 Soviet "Rubin" 102:http://proradioantic.ro/index.php?x=item&id_p=224

An Romanian "Naţional" V.S. 43-614 made by "Electronica" Bucureşti *(Romanian only by it's name: Japenese "Matsushita/National-Panasonic" electronic tubes and probably West-German "Valvo" picture tube). Common sets in the past.
http://i31.tinypic.com/2djbhoj.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/33wo3rn.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/20f86bo.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/21o90ls.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2iv20yo.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2z73d5t.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/fnaald.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/5uppnd.jpg

Channel selector:
http://i32.tinypic.com/zl94kw.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/34yp7gx.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/fwtymt.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/qsv6g3.jpg

An eraly '60's East-German "Srassfurt": http://proradioantic.ro/index.php?x=item&id_p=504 (bellow you can see an Hungarian "Orion")

The "Orion": http://proradioantic.ro/index.php?x=item&id_p=208

An Romanian portable solid-state "Sport" made by "Electronica" *- Bucharest (don't know if the picture tube is Romanian or not):
http://proradioantic.ro/index.php?x=item&id_p=639

* in Bucharest there where 2 "Electronica" plants. The old one, from Str. Baicului nr. 82 (#82 Baicu's Street) founded in 1938 by "Philips" Romania (on 11th of June 1948 the factory was nationalized) which also assambled tv sets in early '60's (and later became "Electronica Industrială (Industrial Electronics)"), and the new one, from Platforma Inudtrială Pipera (Pipera Industrial Platform), opened in 1965-1966

BELIVE IT OR NOT, the Soviet tv sets where safer then the others. Why? Because the Europeanen non-Soviet tv's didn't had a transformer (to hard to built or they where too big) so it was great risk of electrocution! (some people died while repairing tv sets). The tv with transformers got E or 6 (like 6P13S, 6P36S) electronic tubes, the ones without a transformer P or type tubes (P where for in-series supply).

yagosaga · #2 09-05-2008, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007

BELIVE IT OR NOT, the Soviet tv sets where safer then the others. Why: because the Europeanen non-Soviet tv's didn't had a transformer (to hard to built or they where too big) so it was great risk of electrocution! (some people died while repairing tv sets).

This is true. The Raduga color tv set has a transformer as big as an arc-welding transformer. And the set is heavy, only two people could carry this monster...

Kiwick · #3 09-05-2008, 07:14 AM

wasn't the Raduga famous for imploding and/or catching on fire?

yagosaga · #4 09-05-2008, 09:11 AM

Yes, the Raduga is wellknown as the "chamber burn from friend's country".

maxm · #5 09-05-2008, 11:01 AM

Here is a photo of a Soviet / Lithuanian made TV, I believe from 1991. It is color, with electronic tuning. It is at a friend's apartment in Lithuania I visited this summer.

yagosaga · #6 09-05-2008, 12:10 PM

Tomorrow I will probably get an early working Raduga color tv set. I will post photos in "Rectangular Tube & Solid State".

fsjonsey · #7 09-06-2008, 12:08 AM

I'd love to see a photo of the Raduga. The differences between Soviet and American made electronics fascinates me.

Sandy G · #8 09-06-2008, 06:55 AM

Wow...This is so KEWL ...Soviet consumer-grade electronics have always had sort of an "Alternate Reality" aspect to me...Thanks for posting this ! And, yes, ABSOLUTELY, they should be preserved, as much as possible !

yagosaga · #9 09-06-2008, 11:29 AM

Hi,

here are the first photos of the formidable Raduga.

Kind regards,
Eckhard

Kiwick · #10 09-06-2008, 11:43 AM

cooool!!! what a wonderful set! i'd kill to have one!

anyway, where's the fire hazard in Raduga sets? maybe the HV rectifier was a bit too close to the wooden cabinet?

yagosaga · #11 09-06-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwick

cooool!!! what a wonderful set! i'd kill to have one!

I don't need to kill for it. I gave one of my GE Portacolors for it.

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Originally Posted by Kiwick

anyway, where's the fire hazard in Raduga sets? maybe the HV rectifier was a bit too close to the wooden cabinet?

The fire hazards were caused by the shunt regulator. When the shunt regulator failes, the E.H.T. climbed up to 60 KV, and this shot the CRT.

- Eckhard

Telecolor 3007 · #12 09-06-2008, 02:19 PM

From where in the world you guys there, in Eastern-Europe manage to find stuff like that.
I always reach to late... With the ocasion of "Marea deabarasare" (day to colect old electronic and home aplaicens) from April this year 1 saw a case of 1 "Temp" 2 + rests of the picture tube, and some saw another "Temp" 2, but couldn't pick it up (he was not riding a car)... "Temp" 2 where the only black and white sets to be salled in Romania whic had round picture tube...

And since they where extremly expensive and at the time they where salled television was only broadcasting in Bucharest area, I don't think they where more than 1,000-2,000 salled.
I'll made an big off-topic and talk about color hibrid tv sets: I know a guy which destroyed about 5, and another how destroyed 10 (and demit, the one that destroyed the 5 ones had an repairing workshop near me, but back in the '90's I dind't even now there where color tv's with electronic tubes into it and didn't have money...)

yagosaga · #13 09-06-2008, 02:55 PM

Hi,

there was an ad on a collector's board: Raduga for free. I asked another collector to collect it for me.

The secondary coil of the flyback is bad. See photo.

When I was on a visit in East Germany in 1980, the first time I saw this Raduga tv set in a radio and tv shop. I wondered why this Sovjet tv set has a purple picture. The other brands reporduced correct colors. But these Sovjet tv sets had purple screens.

Today I get the answer. Because the Raduga tv sets have a tint control! It is just the same tint control like I knew from NTSC color tv sets. The Raduga is a SECAM tv set with a tint control. It is fascinating.

In the next weeks I will get another Sovjet color tv set, the Rubin. It is also in good condition, but it is missing the back.

Kind regards,
Eckhard

Telecolor 3007 · #14 09-06-2008, 04:04 PM

What "Rubin"? 102?

yagosaga · #15 09-06-2008, 04:19 PM

Rubin: I have to see.

Here is a photo with the first light on the screen of the Raduga. The other collector, Walter Fink, has replaced the bad secodary coil with a coil from a Philips color tv set.

- Eckhard