WALL-e

[electronjohn]

My wife and I wanted to go see a movie the other day...flipped a coin and it came up "WALL-e". Glad we went...the folks at Pixar have outdone themselves again. Excellent movie, many messages on many different levels. As usual, after 5-10 minutes you totally forget it's animated and just settle back and enjoy. BTW...the "Presto" cartoon at the beginning is a real bonus! Fun!

[ke4cij]

Wall-E was great and lots of fun!

Think it was fun wait till you see Hancock! It was a blast and loads of fun!

[Mark W.]

enjoyed the movie but I have reservations about messages (I'll leave it at that cause I don't want to get burned at the stake here)

[MoreCowbell]

I enjoyed Wall-E, mostly due to the craftsmanship of the movie as a whole. It is a bit odd in that live action, photorealistic CGI, and non-photorealistic CGI ("A Bug's Life" being an example of NPR CGI) are all used together.

The story line is good but the many serious messages that the movie tries to make were detractions for me.

I still think that I will see it again though.

[Wigwam Jones]

Originally Posted by Mark W.

enjoyed the movie but I have reservations about messages (I'll leave it at that cause I don't want to get burned at the stake here)

I know what you mean. I haven't seen Wall-E, yet, but my wife and I felt the same about the animated movie "Iron Giant." Loved the movie - thought the 'message' was a bit heavy-handed (no pun intended) and also incorrect. But we decided to just enjoy the movie as a movie and let it go at that - we loved it on that basis.

[Duffinator]

I thought the way they introduced and included the environmental messages was brillant but the implementation wasn't. It didn't keep my interest throughout the whole movie and I didn't think it was even close to the best Pixar has done so far. I was nodding off several times in the middle of the movie. Here's how my family rated the movie using the Netflix 5 star system:

Mom- 4 stars
Six year old daughter- 3 stars
Six year old son- 5 stars
Dad- 3 stars

BTW The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar movie so far.

[soundmotor]

Originally Posted by Duffinator

BTW The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar movie so far.

.....the reference point for animated films.



Looking forward to seeing WALL-e however.

[outlawmws]

Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

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The story line is good but the many serious messages that the movie tries to make were detractions for me.

I still think that I will see it again though.

We felt the same way about the penguin’s movie a couple of years ago.

Not subtle at all like Disney was with Bambi...

[slow_jazz]

I agree visually it was great. Story was a bit heavy for me....

[markc2]

Why is protecting, or saving the planet (from ourselves) heavy..

Dr. Emmett Brown: There's that word again; "heavy". Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the earth's gravitational pull?

How is that different from any other science fiction setup.

I think someone mentioned this too, but it reminded me a lot of 2001/2010. Like a kids version kind of...

to me it was a love story. Really admired Wall*e's patience.

[soundmotor]

Originally Posted by markc2

Why is protecting, or saving the planet (from ourselves) heavy.

I'm guessing it is because at every turn it is either alluded to or directly stated that we (Americans) are destroying the planet from our wasteful, avaricious, over-consumptive, thoughtless, greedy, did I say wasteful yet?, non-efficient, have too many things, most of the world's resources utilizing, only a fraction of the world's total living, have it too good when others have nothing, coal-fired, fossil-fueled, ocean polluting, non-caring after me the deluging, putting it all on our children's backs ignoring, global warming, cheap labor exploiting, SUV driving, gas guzzling, non-mass transit using, too many plasma TV watching, ozone depleting, carbon dioxide dumping, non-carbon neutral imprinting, slash & burning, strip mining, landfilling, toxic VOC creating, incandescent bulb using, idling in the fast food line sitting, animal extincting, polar bear drowning, shooting guns in the air bullets dropping, kind of lifestyle we all are supposed have.



Apologies if I left anyone's ox ungored.

[Wigwam Jones]

Originally Posted by soundmotor

I'm guessing it is because at every turn it is either alluded to or directly stated that we (Americans) are destroying the planet from our wasteful, avaricious, over-consumptive, thoughtless, greedy, did I say wasteful yet?, non-efficient, have too many things, most of the world's resources utilizing, only a fraction of the world's total living, have it too good when others have nothing, coal-fired, fossil-fueled, ocean polluting, non-caring after me the deluging, putting it all on our children's backs ignoring, global warming, cheap labor exploiting, SUV driving, gas guzzling, non-mass transit using, too many plasma TV watching, ozone depleting, carbon dioxide dumping, non-carbon neutral imprinting, slash & burning, strip mining, landfilling, toxic VOC creating, incandescent bulb using, idling in the fast food line sitting, animal extincting, polar bar drowning, shooting guns in the air bullets dropping, kind of lifestyle we all are supposed have.

Quite a sentence.

What would be your suggestion for fixing the problem?

Let me just take a few of your objections to us awful Americans at random...

1) Own too much. OK, I own 'too much' according to you. How do you fix that? Do you take my things away under the auspices of government? Who decides how much is 'too much', by the way? You? I'm just curious how you (or anyone) decides how much is too much to own, and what you intend to do about it.

2) Have it too good when others have nothing. OK, a reasonable statement in terms of the US standard of living compared to many other nations (although supposedly we do not enjoy the world's highest standard of living - leave that aside for now). Again - what do you propose we do about it? Will you take my money away through heavy taxation, distribute it to others? Will you force me to live like a person who is a resident of Ghana, or Ethiopia, or Bangladesh in terms of living quarters, food availability, money, life expectancy, health care, and so on? Who will decide who lives 'too high on the hog' and what will they do to fix it?

And since we're goring oxen here, let me ask the question no one seems to want to ask.

Who cares?

I will not be around when the planet is ruined. I will not suffer the consequences. I have no children. What do I care? Why should I care? What possible difference will it make to me?

Self-centered? Yes. And why not? What does it benefit me to be otherwise?

Nothing I do is illegal, and no religion I have yet found considers my lifestyle immoral. I pay my taxes, live within the law, even contribute to charity and try to assist others as I can. But I live more or less precisely as I wish and can afford, and for this - I am a bad person? I must change how I choose to live because others do not have my standard of living, for whatever reason? I can afford an SUV, but I must not drive one because others cannot afford one - or because it does more harm to the planet than a Honda mini-car?

I find no particular reason to change anything about myself. I am looking forward to seeing the movie when it comes out on DVD.

Apres moi, le deluge.

[Fast_Eddie]

1. Loved it.

2. Ya'll are looking at things too hard trying to find an issue.

[KeninDC]

Originally Posted by Wigwam Jones

I find no particular reason to change anything about myself.

"Don't go changing to try and please me..."

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Wigwam Jones

I will not be around when the planet is ruined. I will not suffer the consequences. I have no children. What do I care? Why should I care? What possible difference will it make to me?

I don't know the right way to say this so it doesn't sound like something I don't mean it to, so I'll just say it and take it for what you will.

That really makes me sad. Not like in a condecending way, but in an Elanor Rigby kind of way.