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Old 03-10-2015, 09:50 AM
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The later models used a 21YP4. The screen curvature looks like a Y.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:52 PM
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Still the same heater voltage, and I'm all sorts of confused. I'll pull the 5U4 and power it up again and see what I see.
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:50 AM
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Still the same heater voltage, and I'm all sorts of confused. I'll pull the 5U4 and power it up again and see what I see.
I don't think, that model uses a 5U4. Selenium rectifier, voltage doubler. It uses a small heater transformer for most of the tubes. The sweep tubes and a few others are in series across the line.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:20 AM
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Aw frig. I didn't look at the chassis too closely. I kind of figured I'd run into seleniums the size of toasters in this damn thing. After all, Raytheon wasn't exactly known for a quality product in the TV realm.

One of those things that I knew would be a PITA to restore, but figured that if I didn't do it nobody else would, and what the heck, at least I had a starting point.

This is the screen shot I had from last power up. Potential is there, anyway....but this one might wait for a while.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:27 PM
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Well, it does have a 5U4, so nyah

This picture tube issue is weird. With a "remove shorts" procedure, the tube tests into the good range, but the H-K leakage pegs the needle. Not sure what type of picture that'll end up giving.....?

Now here's a thought.

The 21FP4 uses electrostatic focus. I believe I can use a 21EP4 which uses magnetic focus. I have a good 21EP4. Just have to rig up a focus magnet assembly.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:04 PM
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Could also grab an isolation 'booster' and skip the modification.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:23 PM
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Well, it does have a 5U4, so nyah

This picture tube issue is weird. With a "remove shorts" procedure, the tube tests into the good range, but the H-K leakage pegs the needle. Not sure what type of picture that'll end up giving.....?

Now here's a thought.

The 21FP4 uses electrostatic focus. I believe I can use a 21EP4 which uses magnetic focus. I have a good 21EP4. Just have to rig up a focus magnet assembly.
I can't believe I'm wrong again! Third time this year and it's only March 14th.
I've never ran across a Raytheon with that control panel, that had a full transformer and 5U4 chassis.
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Old 03-15-2015, 04:18 AM
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Yup! Here's a shot of the nasty dirty chassis.....
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:54 AM
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Yup! Here's a shot of the nasty dirty chassis.....
I didn't think they built that chassis in a 21" model. It looks like there's mounting holes, for a PM focus unit.
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:58 PM
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I split this thread off into another thread about the Raytheon just to keep things organized, we can pick up on it there
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