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Old 08-07-2014, 07:26 PM
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we saw sylvanias 5 to 1 over all other sets here.now,not one in sight.saw many philcos,sears,etc.admirals were scarce as were jc penny and box store brands.
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Some things to know. RCA and Zenith were much better on making sets which stood the test of time, and they had parts and service support networks which were the best of the breed. Their sets aged better. Motorola, Magnavox, Philco, Sylvania, and the lesser brands along with GE tended to be less well supported when they got older or were less reliable with age. So, that accounts for the high presence of those brands. Magnavox made pretty fine sets, but their parts network was horrible to independent service shops who had to buy their Magnavox parts from Magnavox Home Entertainment Centers (some of those dealers would not sell parts over the counter). Philco also practiced similar tactics which many servicers highly disliked. And that also meant some sets got replaced sooner than planned.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:15 PM
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So...THAT is why there seems to be LESS chance of me coming up with a Philco 3CS or 3CY80 or 90 chassis (the one philco had with SCR deflection I think the ONLY one they had like that, 1973 or 74)..or an Admiral M20, M24 or M25 set, or a Sylvania E0-1 or E02 set... there seems to be MORE chance of me finding a CTC-4 or 5 set, or even a CT-100...than one of those early 1970's SS sets...

Does NOT seem to be possible...but evidently it IS.

And it is all because of poor parts/service info in the old days...


And I ALSO think the tubes must not have been too good in them either...but maybe I am wrong about that.

One way or the other....ALL of them have seemed to ended up in the packer trucks some time ago...but those OLD , BW philco and Admiral sets ALWAYS pop up !!
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:30 PM
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Those early Trinitrons seem to be quite plentiful, in spite of how crappy many of them are and the poor parts distribution back in their day.

Another decade or so and those early SS sets will start popping up in decent numbers I reckon. Even the 621TS is breeding like rabbits now.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:25 AM
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I'd like to get my hands on a Sony set that will work with my original Remote Commander. It isn't high on my priority list though. Not many of those made I hear, and they're probably from before those units that use the SG-613 transistors.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:18 AM
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Some things to know. RCA and Zenith were much better on making sets which stood the test of time, and they had parts and service support networks which were the best of the breed. Their sets aged better. Motorola, Magnavox, Philco, Sylvania, and the lesser brands along with GE tended to be less well supported when they got older or were less reliable with age. So, that accounts for the high presence of those brands. Magnavox made pretty fine sets, but their parts network was horrible to independent service shops who had to buy their Magnavox parts from Magnavox Home Entertainment Centers (some of those dealers would not sell parts over the counter). Philco also practiced similar tactics which many servicers highly disliked. And that also meant some sets got replaced sooner than planned.
RCA and Zenith were the best represented set makers. Their parts and service support, were second to none! The Motorola distributor was great too.
They had an Electronic Engineer on staff at all three distributors. There wasn't too much that they couldn't find a solution for.
Admiral and GE distribution was corporate owned.
In the mid-to-later 80's, everything seemed to fall apart. Everything changed!
Parts were a lot harder to get.
That's when I bailed out of TV repairing.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:48 PM
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Those early Trinitrons seem to be quite plentiful, in spite of how crappy many of them are and the poor parts distribution back in their day.

Another decade or so and those early SS sets will start popping up in decent numbers I reckon. Even the 621TS is breeding like rabbits now.

Sony Trinitrons were and continue to this day to be the most reliable color CRT televisions.

KV 7010UA and KV 1210U purchased in 1969 working perfectly without a service until 2006 when they were given away by my wife by mistake. 37 years of reliability. I still have my original KV 1722 purchased in 1973. Not one single service since purchased and it continues to display a beautiful image after 41 years of operation. That is what I call reliability. Screenshots from my Sony KV 1722.

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Old 08-16-2014, 07:56 PM
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Seems to be hit or miss with these Sony sets. They're complained about a lot of the time, yet some seem to hold up forever.

I think one can only speculate about the lack of other brands, we'll never know for sure. Makes them more interesting to some when they are found. I tune out whenever I hear of a chassis starting with CTC. My 1978 XL-100 is an exception to the rule, plain but looks good to me. It would have been ratted for parts otherwise.
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I do NOT "tune out" for CTC #'s--but I DO want to know WHICH # they are. The CTC 74/81 direct address set seems to be harder for me to get than a CTC-5. Again--I feel it is because the tubes were not too good in them--and so when they died for good...so did the sets.

But I would have NEVER guessed that a 1957 CTC-5--found today--would have a BETTER tube--than a 1976-78 CTC-74/81. But is SEEMS to be that way.
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I would never 'tune out' a nice later CTC set. I am fond of the CTC-117 and 121
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:14 AM
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To each his own. The more common something is, the easier I get bored with it. I rarely get excited about anything made outside the 70s now. An early XL console with motor-driven turret tuner would appeal to me, especially one on legs (Danish Modern?) but not much else RCA.

By the way, there's a GoldStar console in my local listings right now with cat-scratched speaker cloth. Never knew GoldStar consoles existed. Probably a piece of crap.
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:27 AM
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The trouble with weak Sony CRTs, aside from their not taking rejuvenation is that they can only be replaced with other Sony CRTs. Lots of RCA-supplied CRTs in sets of other makes, even the rotting Canadian-model Hitachi I picked up had a RCA CRT and yoke, which I still have along with most of the other parts.
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:59 AM
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The trouble with weak Sony CRTs, aside from their not taking rejuvenation is that they can only be replaced with other Sony CRTs. Lots of RCA-supplied CRTs in sets of other makes, even the rotting Canadian-model Hitachi I picked up had a RCA CRT and yoke, which I still have along with most of the other parts.
Why would anyone want to put a non Sony CRT in a Sony set?

The Trinitron one gun with three inline cathodes is what set Sony apart from all others with its superior focusing and lack of a need for convergence adjustments.
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