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andy · #16 12-18-2009, 04:04 PM

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bgadow · #18 12-18-2009, 10:24 PM

I do like that style control panel, no matter the chassis. I never thought much of the newer ones with the tilt-out door. A 40/44 would be neat.

The SA that I frequent has been pretty good on electronics. Of course, they recently set me up with that Airline color combo, so I can't gripe. Most are priced okay, not too cheap though. Not real consistent. You might see a very clean Monkey Wards 19" remote set from the mid-80s for $15 and next to it is a knob-tune Sears in a beat up cabinet, late 70s, priced $50. Depends who is working that day, I guess. Lately they have been good for having in stock at least one top-loader VCR priced at $5. The manager seems to have a good attitude. While I was making the deal on the combo somebody came in asking about a pair of old pianos that have been languising on the sales floor for quite some time. He said he would take $10 each. (and the prospective buyer thought that was too high!)

old_coot88 · #19 12-18-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdylon

This was another set I saved from being recycled. The tag is unreadable so I don't know much about it. It has a mean looking cataract...

Are you sure that's a cataract? It looks more like the result of loss of vacuum from the neck being cracked off suddenly. Bill(oc)

N9ZQA · #20 12-18-2009, 11:51 PM

Nice score on the RCA! Can't beat the price and it looks as though it will clean up nicely. Don't see too many of those around here. Goodwill quit dealing in televisions entirely about a year ago, and all of the local thrifts have the usual overpriced late 80's/early 90's sets on the shelves.

Have been keeping my eyes out for a top-loading VHS machine to fill up the top of my CCII, but all I seem to come across are the last gasp of VCR technology. Might have to dig out the Betamax one of these days.

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Originally Posted by old_coot88

Are you sure that's a cataract? It looks more like the result of loss of vacuum from the neck being cracked off suddenly. Bill(oc)

That's definitely a cataract. The Admiral in my avatar had one that was all the way to the center of the screen, save for about a 4" circle. When I first saw the picture I thought the same thing.

Do color tubes suffer from the same phenomenon when they get necked? I would think the shadow mask would protect the phosphors from at least physical (impact) damage and maybe from the damage of the air rushing into the tube.

Re: the Zenith console - I almost picked one of those up at a thrift store a couple weeks ago, but $50 seemed a little steep. It had the same control layout, with stereo decoder and A/V inputs, from 1985. In 10 years, though, they will probably be as sought after as the CCIIs are now. I remember a lot of the sets I grew up with that got tossed simply because they were "just old TVs"

-Jim

ha1156w · #21 12-19-2009, 01:17 AM

I used to have a Zenith console just like the one you picked up. Had to be from 1992 instead of 1982. It even had the dreaded Zenith picture tube failure. Had trash in the green gun that shorted occasionally giving a green raster with retrace. Ended up giving it away to a neighbor when I moved and had to downsize about 10 years ago. Don't miss it a bit. Had lousy audio with the tinniest sounding speakers they could get their hands on.

ChrisW6ATV · #22 12-19-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ctc17

What is a VCR?

It is kind of like a DVR, except instead of using a program guide, you have to tell it the time of day and amount of time you want it to record. Often, these steps are done with small visible displays and indicators right on the front panel of the machine itself, using numerous small buttons. The recordings are not made on a hard disk drive as normal, but on large removable cartridges that each hold only a small amount of recorded TV-as few as two hours per cartridge.

The cartridges themselves do not contain an ordinary random-access magnetic platter, but two separate reels and a large amount (hundreds of feet!) of plastic tape with a magnetic coating somewhat comparable to that on a hard disk platter. The tape winds from one reel to the other as the recording is made, and it must be rewound all the way back onto the first reel before the recording can be watched (the rewinding process can itself take a minute or more after a two-hour recording). If more than one recording is made on the cartridge, this slow tape-winding process (forward or reverse) must be done before watching any of the recordings, and there is NO on-screen menu of the programs on the cartridge! Because of this end-to-end tape operation, random access to specific points in a movie was a slow, cumbersome process, and there were no individual chapters encoded on the tape cartridges.

Despite these shortcomings and limitations, the machines were very popular for a number of years. Large numbers of the "video cassettes" were sold, at very low prices, and people collected cabinets full of them in their homes. Because the cassettes were removable, it was possible to buy or rent individual cassettes with popular movies, similar to the way Blu-ray movies are bought and rented today (as were DVDs previously).

jpdylon · #23 12-19-2009, 10:09 PM

The set turns out to be a CTC-28 and it has a hi-lite 25xp22 which has excellent emission. There also isn't any evidence of major failure - or service for that matter.

It will be down the line - but I will try and restore this one - looks like a good bet it will turn out well.

Rental Limo · #24 12-20-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sampson159

our local sa also has an "expert" in electronics.he might be 18 years old.i have spoke with him several times.he couldn t believe there was ever a round color set and he has heard of tubes.anything from 1990 and older is now "vintage".
he like to tell you that "the knobs alone are worth a fortune'.HE HASNT A CLUE.what is more baffling is that management takes his word as gold.they have more than 40 sets with high price tags sitting there.i havent bought anything there for years.i still go take a look.makes my day.what new valuable sets "MIKE"has checked out and priced.that 19' GE from the late 90s with a 89.00 price is highly sought after.or the sampo vhs unit with remote for 99.00.

I used to think i was the dumb one until i got older, and this proves some people should of not been born!

Rental Limo · #25 12-20-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by N9ZQA

Nice score on the RCA! Can't beat the price and it looks as though it will clean up nicely. Don't see too many of those around here. Goodwill quit dealing in televisions entirely about a year ago, and all of the local thrifts have the usual overpriced late 80's/early 90's sets on the shelves.

Have been keeping my eyes out for a top-loading VHS machine to fill up the top of my CCII, but all I seem to come across are the last gasp of VCR technology. Might have to dig out the Betamax one of these days.

That's definitely a cataract. The Admiral in my avatar had one that was all the way to the center of the screen, save for about a 4" circle. When I first saw the picture I thought the same thing.

Do color tubes suffer from the same phenomenon when they get necked? I would think the shadow mask would protect the phosphors from at least physical (impact) damage and maybe from the damage of the air rushing into the tube.

Re: the Zenith console - I almost picked one of those up at a thrift store a couple weeks ago, but $50 seemed a little steep. It had the same control layout, with stereo decoder and A/V inputs, from 1985. In 10 years, though, they will probably be as sought after as the CCIIs are now. I remember a lot of the sets I grew up with that got tossed simply because they were "just old TVs"

-Jim

At the local Value Village thrift ive always seen a few top loaders off, and on. A matter a fact their is an RCA Selectavision VHS top loader there that has not sold yet for 5 bucks. During half off days it could be bought for $2.50! Sorry you did not live here!

bgadow · #26 12-20-2009, 09:09 PM

When I was younger I busted/imploded plenty of crts, and I guess most were color. I don't recall any of them having a signifcant marking on the face from breaking the neck. Seems like it took a pretty good implosion to do that. But very common on the bw tubes.

I was in my friend's TV shop the other day and some folks came in looking for a VCR. Tony didn't have any left so he deferred to me. I told them that anything made in recent years was bound to be junk, and to look for a good one at a thrift store. Unfortunately I didn't have a spare I wanted to part with.

freakaftr8 · #27 12-20-2009, 10:44 PM

Necked tubes B&W and color both usually will have a black center where the phospher got blown off upon minor implosion. Have sen my share of busted CRT's in my 34 years.

Carmine · #28 12-21-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV

It is kind of like a DVR, except instead of using a program guide, you have to tell it the time of day and amount of time you want it to record. Often, these steps are done with small visible displays and indicators right on the front panel of the machine itself, using numerous small buttons....

This was cut/pasted from wikipedia, right?

ChrisW6ATV · #29 12-22-2009, 12:12 AM

No, I entirely made it up for fun as I entered it. That's why I put the smiley-face symbol at the end.

zenith2134 · #30 12-22-2009, 03:16 PM

Anyone remember the 90s Toshibas that had an "on-time counter' in the service menu? It was in hexidecimal or something and you needed a chart to convert it to actual hours....OT but cool...anyway

Yeah, lots of junque sets around here....overpriced at the thrifts. The usuals, bpc crap at $50 missing the remotes and all.....

When I was last in there and bought my 13" 1982 GE set, the kid working was like, the OLD set is the one you want?! And he phoned the bossman and was like, he wants the olddd tv ... how much? Got it for 10 bucks iirc.