19" daewoo CRT tv

[Username1]

Actually, quality is almost a perception. When I was a landscaper I got to work with people from all over the world. I had a friend that was from Poland, a mechanical engineer. We often had discussions about the quality of cars, and the equipment we used every day. My mustang with its 5.7 liter engine was a very wasteful thing to people from his part of the world. It was funny, him, and his buddies thought american cars were the things to have. I had just got a new Prelude and given up on my rustang lasting much longer. Each week those guys were fixing their LTD II's 81 Cutlass Supreme, Chevy Buick Cavileer, and always confused at the unreasonable number of things that had to be removed to get to the part that needed replacement, or that there were items with no adjustment and did not fit any better than the part they were replacing. "American Yougo's they were." The LTD II where you could not get to the heater core unless you removed the dash. He was not an engineer and cut the firewall and replaced it that way.... He got smart on how junky that car was... they all eventually got honda's
In the home country of the Daewoo I bet its a quality respected brand. GM cars in china are very respected, and from what I hear they are much better than the US version of GM. Daewoo for export? and a Daewoo for domestic consumption? I think the predicta is an ugly thing and would not have one in my living room.

[Eric H]

You won't get much argument that 1980's "LTD II's 81 Cutlass Supreme, Chevy Buick Cavileer" were junk, they came from a time period when the American automakers were at their lowest point in terms of quality, today it's a lot different story.

The Daewoo may very well function OK and last a long time but it was still a low end throw away set.

The OP asked if it was worth $50 (and I suspect it was Trolling) and the consensus was No, it isn't, not when they can be had much cheaper and better for less, if not free from Craigslist or a Dumpster.

Predictas are collected because they are design Icons, not because they were well built, it was known early on that they were junk.
Do you think this Daewoo or any other lookalike, tail end, bottom of the barrel BPC set will ever be worth hundreds of dollars to anyone?

[AUdubon5425]

The heater core in the compact LTD (all Fox chassis cars for that matter) was probably the only thing that was a supreme pita to replace. Otherwise I found them to be quite agreeable and cheap to maintain - we kept one for twenty years (the last couple without heat, admittedly.)

[sampson159]

oh.those ltdIIs!i was working at ricart back then and i was the delegated heater core guy!they were really a pain until i found a better way.every ford and mercury product,i have changed a heater core.i am so glad i dont have to do that anymore.of course,there is a 1998 mustang gt outside that need one replaced..............

[wa2ise]

Originally Posted by Username1

I had a friend that was from Poland, a mechanical engineer. We often had discussions about the quality of cars, and the equipment we used every day. It was funny, him, and his buddies thought American cars were the things to have.

I know a guy at work from Poland, and he mentioned that back in the bad old days (1970's) a Ford Pinto would have been a high quality car compared with what they had in Poland back then. Heard stories of a car with 2 cycle engines and plastic body, "Tribant" I think the brand name was.

[Jeffhs]

After reading these posts, I wonder if Daewoo is still in business. If so, they are probably, even likely, turning out flat-panel TVs today that won't or do not last longer than the warranty period or two years (!), whichever comes first. Daewoo is in a class with GPX and other no-name offshore electronics firms, in that their products are throwaway junk -- and they aren't that great when they are working. I've never owned Daewoo TVs or anything else with that name, but I did have a GPX radio-cassette recorder years ago that broke after only three weeks. I didn't even bother taking it back to the store; I simply trashed it, and made up my mind -- no more GPX gear for me. I had a Sanyo radio-cassette that lasted longer and was built better than that GPX BPC.

10-07-2010 - 3:12 pm EDT -- I just looked on Google for more info on Daewoo and found that they are still in business, but not as an electronics firm. These days, they seem to be more into automobiles, home appliances such as microwave ovens, and so on. Maybe they finally realized that their televisions weren't selling as well as they had hoped they would on the American market, and the company never got as far as producing FP TVs. Just as well. If they had stayed in the TV business long enough to make FPs, the sets would have been the same throwaway junk as are their CRT televisions.

[leadlike]

Yeah-the Trabant was pretty miserable. I've seen a few sell here locally-between 3-5k each, if you can believe that. Yes, it is a 2-stroke car, so don't forget to add oil when you fill up.

Maybe it wasn't too bad in comparison, what with the Robin Reliant 3 wheeler, and that awful 3 HP Renault (?) that used a hand crank starter. Being manufactured at the same time...

Edit: actually that hand crank start was from a 1976 Citroen Ami.

[matt_s78mn]

Originally Posted by leadlike

Maybe it wasn't too bad in comparison, what with the Robin Reliant 3 wheeler, and that awful 3 HP Renault (?) that used a hand crank starter. Being manufactured at the same time...

I saw a segment on Top Gear the other day where Jeremy Clarkson was driving a Robin Reliant around and kept rolling it over. It was hilarious. Also isn't that the car that Mr. Bean always pushes away whenever he wants to park his Mini?

[leadlike]

Yup, Mr. Bean apparently liked pushing Reliants off of the road. I just saw that Top Gear as well-the Reliant held up pretty well considering the number of times it was rolled.

I looked into the hand crank starter in 1976-the Ami DID have a starter motor, but it failed enough, and was too wimpy to turn the engine over if it was cold enough outside, that you would have to go over to manual. To reference another episode of Top Gear, where Jeremy was driving a junky British Leyland vehicle, he pointed out something like power windows that also had hand cranks-"see, they knew it would fail, so you can still do it manually as well"

[Sandy G]

The 1st Amis looked like they were designed by people who'd never seen a car before, & had no conception of what a "Car" was supposed to be. The one I've wanted for years was the 2CV-the immortal Deaux Cheveau. I've NEVER seen one in poison. I HAVE seen-and laid hands on-a Subaru 360. And I have seen a 1960-era Fiat Multipla-there used to be one in Morristown.Even have seen a Renault 4CV or 2-Lifted the "Hood" up on one once in a junkyard, & was greeted by one of the biggest Wasp Nests I'd ever seen...About 6" from my face.

[AUdubon5425]

My God - the Subaru 360...what a pile of junk. The first car ever rated "not acceptable" by Consumer Reports. Some poor dealers were stuck with those things for a few years they were so unsellable new. I heard back around '71-'72 some dealer up in the northeast sold off his inventory of them for $50 a piece.

[Eric H]

Originally Posted by wa2ise

I know a guy at work from Poland, and he mentioned that back in the bad old days (1970's) a Ford Pinto would have been a high quality car compared with what they had in Poland back then.

I owned a couple Pintos back in the early 80's, my Uncle had a couple also.

The earlier ones actually were a pretty decent car if you got the 2.0L engine, the 1.6L was a miserable piece of junk though, the later ones (74+) with the 2.3L or the V6 and all the emissions equipment were also crap but still light years better than a Vega.

They were very under powered but the 2.0L engines would run forever if you took care of them.
The 4 speed manual Transmission was the weakest point, I rebuilt or replaced a lot of those, they came with a C4 Automatic too but that only made the lack of power worse.

[Sandy G]

Oh, yeah-my roomate in college had a Pinto automatic & that had to be about the most gutless car I ever drove, even by the mediocre standards of the late Seventies. It didn't accelerate-it "Gained Momentum"...Glacially.

[AUdubon5425]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

Oh, yeah-my roomate in college had a Pinto automatic & that had to be about the most gutless car I ever drove, even by the mediocre standards of the late Seventies. It didn't accelerate-it "Gained Momentum"...Glacially.

You haven't lived until you've driven a car so underpowered that you had to back up a hill.

[Sandy G]

Originally Posted by AUdubon5425

You haven't lived until you've driven a car so underpowered that you had to back up a hill.

That used to be the preferred method of traversing hills-in a Model T Ford. 2 reasons-Ts had no fuel pump, the gas tank was either under the front seat, or in the cowl, & if you were about out of gas, getting the tank above the motor was a good idea. Another reason was that Ts had fabric/leather bands in the transmission, to equalise wear, & hopefully make 'em last longer, you drove in reverse when possible.