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Marlin Mackley 09-08-2006, 08:02 PM Hey folks:
I found this interesting electronics cabinet the otherday. It is a mystery to me, as the only label is on the rear frame, a fiber ellipse with 37 stamped on it. 37 is penciled on the 4 removable legs also. Foil paper lines the upper portion. There are two speaker positions in the bottom plate, 6" and 5", cloth still survives. A small chassis was once mounted in the bottom. The left side near the rear features a door that once slid open. It is deep enough to hold a small TV, like a 621, or maybe, with a crt rear bumpout, a 10" Admiral. Could also be a radio of course, and I will try to post it in the radio section of AK also.
Marlin
http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/37.JPG http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/open.JPG http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/sidewdoor.JPG http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/top.JPG http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/under.JPG
kx250rider 09-09-2006, 01:56 AM Photo is a red "X"... But sure curious to see it!
Charles
Marlin Mackley 09-09-2006, 10:10 AM I donno why the "x". It shows on mine, and a replyer to the Radio thread version of the same thing can see it. Try going to my web site directly: http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/37.JPG, http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/open.JPG,
http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/sidewdoor.JPG,
http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/top.JPG,
http://www.studio4-17.com/tvcab/under.JPG
Pete Deksnis 09-09-2006, 10:47 AM Very interesting. Could be that the '37' is simply the cabinet maker's production identification.
Strange speaker complement. Perhaps because it housed two separate electronic systems.
The long sweeping legs: Queen Anne style? Something that could be popular prewar.
David Roper 09-09-2006, 11:22 AM Photo is a red "X"It shows on mine...
I can confirm studio4-17.com was down at the time.
kx250rider 09-09-2006, 12:42 PM Shows fine now this morning for me! Must have been a glitch. That looks very nice, and I have to admit that I can't confirm what it is. I'm not 100% sure it's a TV cabinet. It could be a radio & phono from the late 20s, or POSSIBLY a Guild radio-record player from the 50s. RCA, Majestic and Magnavox did make TVs with that style of cabinet, so that's also a possibility.
Maybe someone else can comment?
Charles
kx250rider 09-09-2006, 12:44 PM I can confirm studio4-17.com was down at the time.
A-Ha!
Marlin Mackley 09-09-2006, 01:50 PM I can confirm studio4-17.com was down at the time.
I've been down a lot lately....Oh, you meant my SERVER!
I have the rather common 1949 RCA with the same legs (16" tv) but they always in my experience put their decal somewhere in front, even to splitting the name on the doors. This thing has the original finish, ruling out decal removal, and is too small for the larger 16" chassis. I have been assuming two speakers meant two electronics's, with the TV getting the better speaker, but it coulda been two widely different radio chassis. Upper chassis mount holes indicate that it was nearly the size of the whole upper "table", pretty much ruling out a reach-in device, like a record turntable. Bad looking foil might also indicate no visibility of any of the upper interior surfaces. Lower chassis was small, no bigger than an American 5 radio. That is why I was thunkin' it mighta been an Admiral '48 or so vintage TV, as it had 2 chassis. Would not need the two speakers though.
Marlin :confused:
Bill Cahill 09-09-2006, 03:32 PM Not sure, but, reminds me of an old "Outer limits" where they actually had a 10" chinese painted tv with the same cabinet shapes as this. Make un known. Chassis used there didn't look familiar. Not an RCA. My guess is a mediteranium style case with queene Anne looks. Some weired things were done with furniture. Looks like 50's look to me. Could be completely wrong, though. My guess is the cabinet was made to house a generic set of some sort. The two large holes confuse me, though. Pehaps a scond chassis went on bottom?Hmmmm. :scratch2: Bill C
pearsonk 09-09-2006, 03:48 PM Probably not a tv. Two different size speakers most likely indicate a 'hi-fi' set -non stereo. Foil probably not original and if removed might provide more info. Bottom could have been for turn table. Few tv sets of the '50/60/70's would have used these legs. So, what do you have? I have no idea.............................
bgadow 09-09-2006, 10:05 PM Those elongated cutouts for vents (on the floor) seem common to the tv era. What heads are on the screws?
kx250rider 09-10-2006, 02:15 AM Probably not a tv. Two different size speakers most likely indicate a 'hi-fi' set -non stereo. Foil probably not original and if removed might provide more info. Bottom could have been for turn table. Few tv sets of the '50/60/70's would have used these legs. So, what do you have? I have no idea.............................
I am leaning toward the idea of it being a Guild hi-fi console. I think I remember seeing one like this! The speaker holes would make sense. I'd maybe repost this in the antique radio thread, and ask "Is this a Guild cabinet?"
Guild made some really neat sets in the 50s and 60s; one that looked like an antique oak wall telephone, one that was a grand piano, a rolltop desk, and even a kitchen spice rack. They were very high quality cabinets. I also saw a Guild TV that was in a cabinet like this, and I think it was a companion to this HiFi cabinet, if my theory is right.
Charles
rld-tv01 09-10-2006, 04:40 PM I have a 1949 Brunswick 10" TV which is similar. Brunswick made phograph, radio and television cabinetts and used other manufacturer's chassis.
rld-tv01 09-10-2006, 04:53 PM Marlin,
Its good to see you back at AudioKarma. Someone had asked about you several months ago on another forum. I'm the guy who you met at Peter Yanczer's Mechanical TV convention in St. Louis around aug 2000/2001 who told you about the color TV in VA.
-Richard
Eric H 09-10-2006, 06:27 PM I don't know what that cabinet's from but it's way cool, and
since it's already empty it's just begging to be retrofitted with something cool. :banana: in a reversible manner of course in case the original guts ever turn up.
Phil Nelson 09-11-2006, 01:46 PM Hmm, I suppose anything's possible, but I have never heard of a Guild television, only radios, some with phono.
Also, all the Guild cabinets that I've seen look like something else, as mentioned before -- a spice chest, rolltop desk, teakettle, etc. This cabinet just looks like a cabinet.
Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
Marlin Mackley 09-11-2006, 02:41 PM Those elongated cutouts for vents (on the floor) seem common to the tv era. What heads are on the screws?
If you are talking about the lower chassis mount screws, there aren't any. One curious thing though, closer together than the lower chassis mounting holes there are a pair of "T" nuts, mounted in such a way that they were used to bolt something UNDER the bottom panel. No sign of ever being used.
Marlin Mackley 09-11-2006, 03:03 PM Marlin,
Its good to see you back at AudioKarma. Someone had asked about you several months ago on another forum. I'm the guy who you met at Peter Yanczer's Mechanical TV convention in St. Louis around aug 2000/2001 who told you about the color TV in VA.
-Richard
Hey Richard, long time no "E"! Yeah, been busy with non-TV obligations, and trying to get the business stuff outa my place so I can get the TV/radio displays set up.
I saw Pete the other week, seems in fine health and spirits.
Marlin
Tom_Ryan 09-11-2006, 10:19 PM Very nice cabinet. :thmbsp: Beautiful Queen Anne style legs. It could be a custom cabinet for radio phonograph. There are what look like two rails on the bottom shelf. It's sure big enough to hold something that needs a classic touch.
Eric H 09-12-2006, 11:04 PM Hey Marlin, you might try posting a link to this over at A.R.F. http://antiqueradios.com/forums/
Perhaps someone there will recognize it. :scratch2:
kx250rider 09-13-2006, 01:00 AM Hmm, I suppose anything's possible, but I have never heard of a Guild television, only radios, some with phono.
Also, all the Guild cabinets that I've seen look like something else, as mentioned before -- a spice chest, rolltop desk, teakettle, etc. This cabinet just looks like a cabinet.
Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
I had a Guild TV... It was a fake bedside table, and had a 14" rectangular tube. Probably about 1952-54. I don't remember for sure, but I think it was a Guild chassis, not one they bought.
Charles
kx250rider 09-13-2007, 12:59 PM Hmm, I suppose anything's possible, but I have never heard of a Guild television, only radios, some with phono.
Also, all the Guild cabinets that I've seen look like something else, as mentioned before -- a spice chest, rolltop desk, teakettle, etc. This cabinet just looks like a cabinet.
Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
One just turned up!!!!!
See the post I just put on the TV swap board...
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126276
Charles
mr_fixer 09-13-2007, 04:18 PM Looks like a European Radio/TV combo cabinet to me. Maybe Philips or German? You could measure the dimensions of the cabinet with a yard stick and a meter stick to see which one comes up with round numbers like 80 cm verses 25.063 inches or 24 1/2 inches verses 79.8 cm, that might tell you where it was made, except if it was English. Its a really beautiful cabinet. Logan
mr_fixer 09-13-2007, 04:46 PM Hi Guys I think i found it! It came from WWW.tvhistory.tv Logan
David Roper 09-13-2007, 05:56 PM You win the Diligent Research Award, wow.
:ntwrthy:
Dave A 09-13-2007, 11:48 PM A quick search found a great history of McMichael, a very interesting company;
http://www.ingineur.co.uk/McM/index.htm
Click on the history tab for the full history.
And a product lineup also;
http://www.thevalvepage.com/tvmanu/mcmichael/mcmichael.htm
Your set appears twice. Once as a tv only and later as a tv or tv/radio. Same 12" set every time. A quick search of ebay UK showed some McMichael radios and radiograms but no tv's.
I use this link to search UK television sets;
http://collectables.listings.ebay.co.uk/Radio-Television-Telephony_Television-Sets_W0QQfclZ3QQsacatZ3638QQsocmdZListingItemList
Dave A
Marlin Mackley 09-14-2007, 02:27 PM Way to go Dave! I have been so busy I had forgotten I posted it, but now the mystery is solved! (Wish I had the guts to the thing though...)
Marlin
fsjonsey 09-14-2007, 06:15 PM That explains why it was gutted. It was a 405 line british set. Some GI stationed in England after the war probably brought it back with him when he came home in the early 50's, not realizing it wasn't NTSC compatible. Not wanting to throw away such a nice cabinet, he probably gutted it and used it to hold a tabletop set or a metal portable of similar size.
VinylHanger 09-14-2007, 06:27 PM I don't know what that cabinet's from but it's way cool, and
since it's already empty it's just begging to be retrofitted with something cool.
A fish tank? :D
fsjonsey 09-14-2007, 06:38 PM A fish tank? :D
ARRRRRRRRRRRGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c6/Not-again-picard.jpg
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