One popped up on eBay near me for a not-terrible price yesterday, claimed to be working. Solid-state color isn't really my thing but I figured if it's worth having I'll pick it up. It's particularly interesting because it's (presumably) a PAL set but it has a hue control.

What do you say guys?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/u50AAOSw4xZcuf4S/s-l1600.jpg

Some of the early SS us model Trinitrons acutally had a tube HV rect.

ISTR reading that the PAL trinitrons had some goofy patent dodge trick that made it so PAL could be dumped into a NTSC decoder and that is why there is a hue control.

Its one of there first colors. Actually a 12". The U at the end of the
model usually designates for USA, dont remember UB though. This may be
a multy-mode often sold at US PX's & BX's . Not meant to be sold in US but
often brought home. Where is the VHF tuner BTW ?
I worked for Sony in mid 70's & kinda remember a knob layout like
it has but I think it was a monitor.

BTW The rarity of this would be if the CRT is good. Its near impossible
to find pre 80's Sony colors with a good jug. And when they are gone they
are REAL gone.......

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

This is the first generation 12 inch CRT Trinitron for the Europe market. It’s rare and produces an excellent image by the U.S. version as the KV 1210U.

Is it UHF only?

Is it UHF only?

I'm sure it is; most of my Spanish-market sets have no VHF tuner. The American Zeniths and Philcos sold here still have their VHF tuners but based on the state of the mechanicals and the contacts I'd say they never moved from the U position. CCIR broadcasts moved to UHF in about 1963/4.

The UB model is for the UK. UHF only as VHF channels there were 405 line B&W. These do have the patent dodging convert-PAL-to-NTSC decoder, hence the hue control. I had a CVM-1310E as a kid, but could never fix the weird vertical foldover problem it had - always wanted another one to replace it.

VHF was being used when I was based in Germany in 1977, & also when I visited Spain in 1978 & 1988, also in Malta in 1991..

There are 2 versions of the KV1320UB, the early one has the mains transformer and the later one doesn't.
The European version with the VHF tuner
is the KV1300E.
If you search YouTube for KV1310ES there's a guy from New Zealand who got one working.The 1310 had a handle on the top.S on the end indicates made in Singapore.
I've got a 1300E and a 1330UB(slightly later model,same case as the 1320) and both have reasonable CRT's,the hue control on the 1300 swings the colour a lot more than the 1330.
The French market one is the 1220DF,this is dual system
819 line black and white VHF and 625 UHF using the SECAM
system...example here.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/television-ventage-annee-70/233210331554?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.S EED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D41f1c c58db724f7e96b25d6a28b65a40%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D 1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D233210331554%26itm%3D2332103315 54&_trksid=p2481888.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae7c8491e-8563-11e9-9665-74dbd18025a6%7Cparentrq%3A1971288316b0a9e3aa9489b2 fff2d861%7Ciid%3A1

Thread moved to correct sub-forum.

What etype2 said. Gen 1 for the European market. If low price I would jump on it. Test CRT if you have ability to do.

Thanks everyone. I'll contact the seller and see if I can get a photo of the CRT on. It's in Italy so not much chance of testing it.

Why is Spain you didn't used to much V.H.F.
Did in you ever in Spain made picture tubes, valves (electronic tubes)?

Why is Spain you didn't used to much V.H.F.
Did in you ever in Spain made picture tubes, valves (electronic tubes)?

I don't know why the move to UHF so early. I asked in a Spanish forum and the answer I got was "because it did".

There was quite a bit of manufacturing in Spain. I am just finishing up a post about my first restoration of a Spanish-made Philco set, Zenith and GE also operated factories here (kind of), and there were several national brands with factories here during the dictatorship.

I also have a GE-branded set that was built in Spain but opening it up it's full of components from another manufacturer whose name escapes me but they made lots of UK stuff too.

You can please open a subject about brands during Franco's Spain.
I never heared or seen any Spanish (Franco or post Franco) brand of electronics.
I studied Spanish for 2 years in school (as secondary forgein language... English was from the 2nd grade), but unfortenly I wasn't intrested back then to learn it, through all from a Romanian pont of view Spanish is the most easy to learn from the Latin languages (the other beein Italian). And we still have telenovelas on tv... so.
Did the Spanish electronic industry was developed or import was the base?
In Romania we never manufactured electronic tubes. The guns for C.R.T. (we made only black and white ones) where imported as far as I know.
I know "Sony" had (probably still haves) an assmbly plant in Spain.

I don't know why the move to UHF so early. I asked in a Spanish forum and the answer I got was "because it did".

There was quite a bit of manufacturing in Spain. I am just finishing up a post about my first restoration of a Spanish-made Philco set, Zenith and GE also operated factories here (kind of), and there were several national brands with factories here during the dictatorship.

I also have a GE-branded set that was built in Spain but opening it up it's full of components from another manufacturer whose name escapes me but they made lots of UK stuff too.

Really fascinating to think that Spain had been simulcasting what was basically the same television system on VHF and UHF For five decades!

The Navacerrada channel E2 transmitter was still going a few years ago. It's low frequency made it a favorite of television DXers in an arc running from Ireland, the UK, Germany, the Warsaw Pact countries and Greece (an arc 1600km from Navacerrada - 1600km being the ideal distance for VHF signals by sporadic-E).

The second Spanish national channel
TVE 2 used mainly UHF.The first network TVE1 started from Navacerrada in 1956, analogue TV shutdown in 2010.
Digital TV is transmitted on UHF only like
most of the rest of Europe.