View Full Version : Galactica Final Episode - thoughts


targeteye
03-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Any one else a fan? Most TV i find as pure tripe. However, this show in my opinion Is the best TV show I can remember. Some folks may have this on DVR and haven't seen it yet so I'll not play spoiler here.

Sad to see this end but I thought they did a very good job closing it out.

Steve

carbonman
03-21-2009, 12:34 AM
I have it recorded and will watch it tomorrow night.

Sam Cogley
03-21-2009, 01:28 AM
An utterly beautiful piece of television. Godspeed, Kara Thrace.

Arkay
03-21-2009, 01:36 AM
If they follow the usual pattern, it won't be until next year (or the year after?) that I get to see this here in Hong Kong. For whatever reasons, it is always a season later here.

I like the original series with Lorne Greene, probably better than the later one, although I enjoy both. The religious stuff in the newer series is a wee bit 'heavy' at times, IMO, but I still enjoy watching it. I recently found the music/soundtrack to the original Battlestar Galactica movie and series, on vinyl LP. I also have the original movie and some of the series on VHS and LaserDisk. Cool show, even if the production values are a little out-dated by today's standards.

soundmotor
03-21-2009, 07:57 AM
It was great & I'll miss the show.

ducati_EL34
03-21-2009, 11:39 AM
I am glad it was on the DVR. It gave me the ability to fast forward through the slow boring parts, to come to a boring end. So much for the SciFi channel...:boring:

Cantabury Guy
03-21-2009, 11:59 AM
The most astounding thing was to find out Bob Dylan was not the original composer of All Along The Watchtower.

totem
03-22-2009, 11:47 AM
I only caught the last hour of the final show, but do plan on filling it in when rerun.
It was as others have described, what the rest will be compared to in the future.

MoreCowbell
03-23-2009, 11:04 AM
I thought it was very well done.

Seems like writers over the past few years of cinema and TV struggle to come up with endings that are entertaining. The end results are typically shocking, implausible, or lackluster that are completely unsatisfying and a complete letdown.

I was worried that BSG would fall into the same trap and was expecting one of those shocking endings but was pleasantly surprised. A very well thought out story arc with a conclusion that fit in with the tone of the entire series and made sense, IMHO.

Good question. Was wondering others thoughts on this as well.

carbonman
03-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I thought it was a nice touch with them looking at a map of the new planet while still on board BSG and it was "our" Earth. There was a comment that they would call it Earth "even though it's not the real one".
Then the fast forward to us in the present 150,000 years later.

Sam Cogley
03-23-2009, 06:01 PM
This really ties in at an audio forum...
I found this interesting tidbit on the Wikipedia page about "All Along the Watchtower" - I was looking for Dylan's thoughts on his composition. Instead, what first grabbed my eye is what a critic had to say:
Christopher Ricks has commented that "All Along the Watchtower" is an example of Dylan's audacity at manipulating chronological time: "at the conclusion of the last verse, it is as if the song bizarrely begins at last, and as if the myth began again."

Dylan's own comments mirror that thought:
"I haven't fulfilled the balladeers's job. A balladeer can sit down and sing three songs for an hour and a half... it can all unfold to you. These melodies on John Wesley Harding lack this traditional sense of time. As with the third verse of "The Wicked Messenger", which opens it up, and then the time schedule takes a jump and soon the song becomes wider... The same thing is true of the song "All Along the Watchtower", which opens up in a slightly different way, in a stranger way, for we have the cycle of events working in a rather reverse order."
WikiLink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_along_the_watchtower)

"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again." Methinks the choice of that song was in no way a fluke. If it was, that's one whale of a coincidence.

carbonman
03-23-2009, 10:10 PM
I think the producers have had the song in mind from the start of the series, or at least the start of last season.

totem
03-23-2009, 11:53 PM
I caught the first half of the last show that I originally missed, now I can rest in peace.

Cantabury Guy
03-24-2009, 07:44 AM
This really ties in at an audio forum...
I found this interesting tidbit on the Wikipedia page about "All Along the Watchtower" - I was looking for Dylan's thoughts on his composition. Instead, what first grabbed my eye is what a critic had to say:
Christopher Ricks has commented that "All Along the Watchtower" is an example of Dylan's audacity at manipulating chronological time: "at the conclusion of the last verse, it is as if the song bizarrely begins at last, and as if the myth began again."

Dylan's own comments mirror that thought:
"I haven't fulfilled the balladeers's job. A balladeer can sit down and sing three songs for an hour and a half... it can all unfold to you. These melodies on John Wesley Harding lack this traditional sense of time. As with the third verse of "The Wicked Messenger", which opens it up, and then the time schedule takes a jump and soon the song becomes wider... The same thing is true of the song "All Along the Watchtower", which opens up in a slightly different way, in a stranger way, for we have the cycle of events working in a rather reverse order."
WikiLink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_along_the_watchtower)

"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again." Methinks the choice of that song was in no way a fluke. If it was, that's one whale of a coincidence.

Thanks for the insight. I will have play JWH today and give another listen.

targeteye
03-24-2009, 08:24 AM
If you haven't seen it and plan on seeing it don't read any further.

When they jumped to this "new earth" and we saw the moon and the continent of Africa I was really confused because they had already established that Earth the humans last hope was destroyed thousands of years earlier in another war. In that episode I do not recall seeing any continents clearly.

Obviuosly we were all completely surprised to find out that our earth was not the earth that was destroyed by war thousands of years earlier and that really our earth is the new hope for man kind. Another chance to "get it right".

It would be interesting to find they based the theme of the show on the song. The very last exchange between the "Gius Baltar and Six" based "angels" mirrors the song yet again with a twist of hope at least from one of them. A bit of departure from the cycle of creation and distruction repeating endlessly.

Kudos again to the writers and producers of the show.

ducati_EL34
03-24-2009, 08:42 AM
Upon giving further thought to this "cycle" of "it has happened before, it will happen again", reminds me of a similar theme in Babylon 5. Iwonder where the writers of BSG got the idea? :scratch2:

B5 was a great show. The characters were well played and that is what initially drew me into the show.

targeteye
03-24-2009, 09:11 AM
From Wikipedia:

"Television composer Bear McCreary arranged a version of "All Along the Watchtower" for use in the final scene of the Battlestar Galactica season three finale "Crossroads, Part II". The lyrics had been written into the screenplay by Ronald D. Moore. [19] Four of the "final five" Cylons discover that they are Cylons when they simultaneously hear the song and are drawn together. Versions of the song are used again throughout the season four, even including a piano version. The song becomes a key plot point, and the notes of the song are interpreted as coordinates. In the final episode, the character Starbuck makes reference to the song, commenting: "There must be some kind of way out of here". The final scene of the of the series's last episode plays out to the The Jimi Hendrix version of the song."

Steve

MoreCowbell
03-24-2009, 02:52 PM
Upon giving further thought to this "cycle" of "it has happened before, it will happen again", reminds me of a similar theme in Babylon 5. Iwonder where the writers of BSG got the idea? :scratch2:

According to Ronald Moore in the BSG special "The Last Frakkin Special" he states that the idea of "it has happened before, it will happen again" came from a line in Peter Pan.

Brian
03-24-2009, 03:06 PM
I always struggled with the show and missed most of the series. Did see most of the last episode and even more confused with all the flashbacks. Even more confusing was the cylons helping the humans, hybrid cyclon/humans, etc. I did see the episode where they landed on the bombed out earth and the new earth idea really did not suprise me.

CUlater
03-24-2009, 05:16 PM
Damn. I missed that the piano 'come together' mystery tune was a derivation of "Watchtower".

Nicely done ending to a fascinating series. SF these days has gotten to be a real leader in terms of story arc development. B5 staked out the new territory, SG played in it, even Enterprise was forced into that mode by their successes.

Very enjoyable ending to a great series, but I found it a bit unbelievable that there would be a universal 'back to basics' commitment among 38k+ colonists. Other than that, nicely done.

However, for all its successes - BG, SG, Atlantis - the rest of SciFi Channel programming is the worst. I honestly am continually amazed at the rip-off/derivative 'B' movies that they produce. Do they actually think anyone wants to watch that drivel? Some of that stuff is so crappy that I feel embarrassed FOR them as I watch the ads. <sigh>

Sam Cogley
03-24-2009, 05:32 PM
Damn. I missed that the piano 'come together' mystery tune was a derivation of "Watchtower".

Nicely done ending to a fascinating series. SF these days has gotten to be a real leader in terms of story arc development. B5 staked out the new territory, SG played in it, even Enterprise was forced into that mode by their successes.

Very enjoyable ending to a great series, but I found it a bit unbelievable that there would be a universal 'back to basics' commitment among 38k+ colonists. Other than that, nicely done.

Don't forget RDM's previous work on DS9, a show which became very heavily serialized as it went along.

soundmotor
03-24-2009, 07:34 PM
Some of that stuff is so crappy that I feel embarrassed FOR them as I watch the ads. <sigh>

How can you say that? "SS Doomtrooper" got its own action figure!

:D

http://www.figurerealm.com/Customs/6500/6138-1.jpg

automojo
03-24-2009, 07:36 PM
Awesome Series!!:thmbsp: