zenith color roundie tv saved from barn 6/3/12

[snelson903]

yeah it does look like theres a silver border doesnt it in the picture ,i dont think the camera is really showing what it looks like in real life ,the base color is all the same plus it was still wet when the picture was taken, i matched the orginal paint on a part thats been covered up all its life,they call the color a [ carmel latte ] its not really a glose or a flat somewhere in the middle plus paint right after you shoot never looks real ,the second color is a [ italian olive ] green its not a complete glose either ,these colors are there modern equvilince im sure ,somewhere out there someone may know what zenith orginal paint codes were ,but if they mixed them in the factory they vary to .this old paint looks like flat lacker to me like was use on older cars in the 60's and it came off like it to. probley in a month the color will dull out alittle then look normal .

[Eric H]

Originally Posted by snelson903

boy iv been thinking about that since i started this episode ,if anyone got any ideas short of cutting it out of the layered venir and slicing it thin and re-gluing it to the new panel , shoot me some ideas this problem will come up again when restoring a nicer and rare tv .im still thinking about it

I would cut it out, scan it, clean it up with Photoshop or whatever then print out a new one.

It's pretty much impossible to remove one without destroying it in my experience.

[snelson903]

yes i allready have a new schematic photocopyed and ready to go ,its on photo paper to it turned out nice ,theres a picture back on page 7 of it after paint the inside ill glue it in.

[snelson903]

Originally Posted by Magnavox300

Is the bezel two toned?
Looks like a gold on the main part and silverish on the outside edge?
Can't tell.
Looks great though, fun to watch this baby coming back to life!

Magnavox300

you bring up something else i didnt see before i went back and looked at the vary first pictures of when it was still in the truck and facing foward in the garage picture ,the two small borter lines on the bezzel i thought the paint was rubbed off i wonder if they were painted a silvery color. does anyone have this model of zenith that can go look see,or know off hand ,ill look on youtube

[snelson903]

got somemore done today finished fitting in the sides and top,sanding them to fit nice together ,had the inside paint mixed and painted the inside .put the new schematic glued waiting for to dry now.here's a picture of the reproduction chassis layout with the orginal paint smudge copyed.

[Magnavox300]

Looks great!
Are you going to veneer over that birch ply?
That old RCA stand looks cool, I would redo that too!!

Magnavox300

[snelson903]

Originally Posted by Magnavox300

Looks great!
Are you going to veneer over that birch ply?
That old RCA stand looks cool, I would redo that too!!

Magnavox300

no i hate veneer ,i lined up the plywood to match the orginal veneer fake pattern they almost look the same ,so i also matched the stain or varnish also so im going give it shot ,you just have to watch shading i quess ,when i havent been working the cabnet iv been learning about stains and been testing on scrap wood ,after i get it to match the orginal then spray on the clear coat sealer .

[snelson903]

yeah i got that stand and a old rca chair that has the victor dog on it from the local nbc station after the change they were cleaning out stuff [again scrappers] hauled off equitment they thought somebody might want tables and chairs they even gave away the clystron, he said he didnt think anyone would want old equitment from the 50's 60' he thought it just junk ,i told him how much i hated him and would like to beat him, no but that was my thoughts, i told him much money he probley threw away so he could feel bad too, that there are lots of people who would liked to see what they had it was the first nbc station in south bend ind.

[zenithfan1]

I've been watching this Zenith come back to life and all I can say is OMG you're doing an A+ job! Great work man! Cabinet work is fun isn't it? I like to do the electronic resto's just as much but there is just something about working with the cabinetry that feels well...good inside, because everyone can see the transformation even if they know nothing about electronics.

[snelson903]

Originally Posted by zenithfan1

I've been watching this Zenith come back to life and all I can say is OMG you're doing an A+ job! Great work man! Cabinet work is fun isn't it? I like to do the electronic resto's just as much but there is just something about working with the cabinetry that feels well...good inside, because everyone can see the transformation even if they know nothing about electronics.

yes, im starting to get into it i didnt think i like it . it also kinda change's things alittle bit now if i happen across a tv thats got bad cabinet i can now deside instead of just buying it for parts ,i restore the cabinet part too ,im going to get me some wood working tools next esp some long cabinet clamps. auto body tools can only go so far. lol

[Phil Nelson]

What are the dimensions of your RCA stand? I have an old RCA TM-10 color studio monitor that looks about the same size. I had guessed it was rack mounted, but really know nothing about how things were done in TV stations.

Regarding the cabinet, have you considered using toning lacquer rather than stain? Sometimes it does better at producing an even color, if there are plywood edges or different types of wood in the cabinet.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

[snelson903]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

What are the dimensions of your RCA stand? I have an old RCA TM-10 color studio monitor that looks about the same size. I had guessed it was rack mounted, but really know nothing about how things were done in TV stations.

Regarding the cabinet, have you considered using toning lacquer rather than stain? Sometimes it does better at producing an even color, if there are plywood edges or different types of wood in the cabinet.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

no. now he tells me , i spent all day sanding all of the frt. molding work by hand and aplide my first coat just on the orginal wood work and waiting for it to dry, i was told to stain the dark wood first then apply to the lighter wood as needed to match the older darker wood ,it sounds like that would have been faster,it turned nice though ill upload pictures of it. i deffently want to darken the ends were the plywood ends the orginal fiber board was ended in the same way instead making a 90 deg. angel cut witch i almost did ,but then it would have been a sharp corner so did like they did and beveled it a little .at the cut off end of the top fiber board it looks like blackened it on just the edge im thinking about doing the same thing before i stain it. oh the table is 24"x24"x34"

[snelson903]

pictures

[mstaton]

WOW, that's looking awesome. I commend you for your effort!

[Magnavox300]

Great job sanding that front moulding-
I know how much work that is- stain looks amazing!

Magnavox300