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I found some great grille cloth selections at Wal-Mart awhile back, so you might try there too. Example:
http://www.radioatticarchives.com/radio.htm?radio=8984 And I made no effort whatsoever to be original here, but everyone who sees my collection flocks to it and says "wow" anyway. http://www.radioatticarchives.com/radio.htm?radio=8985 So sometimes being creative is a way to go. The original cloth was cat whiz and shreds, no hope of rescue. I didn't show the ETF 810 "finished" because I'm lacking some knobs. They're definitely hard to find. Trivial item: I notice your front panel has four oval air vents. My sets have eleven round vents. Two other sets I've looked at have 11 round holes too. Just a tidbit, don't know if yours is earlier or later or if it's more or less rare. Just that it's different. After looking at my photo, I think I might be stressing the 3/16ths plywood shelf on the RCA stand a bit. Would recommend strategically placing a couple of bricks or wood blocks underneath. I will do same asap.
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11-07-2010, 07:49 AM
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11-08-2010, 05:30 PM
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The knobs showed up today and I'm a little confused.
The top two rows are the knobs that came with this set and a couple inner knobs I picked up later. Some are grayish, some brown and some almost purple. The bottom two rows of brown knobs are the set I just received. Unfortunately it's missing an inner knob and one of the outer is chipped up. Several sets I've seen online and kbmuri's appear to have gray outer knobs and brown inner knobs. It also appears that the two inner knobs on the left have a recessed line pointer while the other two do not. This set for example: http://www.myvintagetv.com/ge_810.htm Can anyone clarify what color and type of knobs to use ? 
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11-08-2010, 09:59 PM
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 The outer knobs on my pristine set are (I believe) what you are calling "almost purple". The inner knobs are Hershey's-milk-chocolate brown. The left two have recessed white indicator lines, the others do not. The pictured-above spare knobs are all brown. Two distinct shades, Hershey's milk and Herhey's Extra Dark. The two outers in the middle are "milk", the remainders "dark". The middle inner knob is milk, the two others are dark. No "almost purples". I think the "almost purple" is an aged Extra Dark. It looks like it would polish off. I won't try it on my good set, you might see if it polishes off of one of yours. Maguire's Cleaner Wax works best. All the pictured knobs above came off GE 810's. My 2nd set and a couple of junkers. I doubt one color is more correct than another. If your concern is that your knobs came off of some other GE product, I would guess not. More likely various production runs, like your oval vent holes. Probably it really matters that they all match each other, else the TV will look kluged together. If I can help you attain a matched set with any of the above knobs, let me know. As you know, some of them have different inner diameters than others. I have most of a set for my 2nd set, but not quite. I'm almost positive Steve McVoy has an 810 in the museum, as nice or nicer than mine, but I don't see it on his website. I pretty clearly remember it in person. An oversight perhaps. If you're out there Steve, perhaps you can check yours for the white indicator lines and what colors you have.
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11-08-2010, 10:23 PM
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As for the color of the knobs, it may well be that, as long as the color on any one set was consistent, they may not have worried much about it. A production manager may find a few thousand of last year's knobs in storage, and have the workers use them up on the next several hundred sets they build.
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11-08-2010, 10:24 PM
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The Sams sheet (53-12) cover shot clearly shows only the left two inner knobs have white indicator lines. The other two inner knobs do not.
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11-08-2010, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for all the info. I guess I need a milk-chocolate inner knob without an indicator line to match the other seven I have. I'll just use a dark brown one for now.
The grey / purple knobs are indeed dark brown on the backside. I suspect it's some sort of reaction with air or sunlight over time. I buffed them with some Novus #2 and it doesn't come off.
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11-08-2010, 11:23 PM
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I took the plunge and lacquered the brass. I did a very light pass over the emblem first to minimize the reaction with the old red paint. Even so it did seem to melt a bit under subsequent coats, but it hardened along with the lacquer so no harm done.
I used Mohawk "Lacquer for Brass". I've tried cheapo Watco lacquer on brass before and it instantly discolored. This stuff is much better. Check out this list of ingredients. That's some potent stuff! n-butyl acetate, ethyl acetate, propane, pm acetate, isopropanol, isobutane, isobutanol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, cellulose nitrate, cellulose ester, alkyd resin solids, polyketone resin, ethylbezene  
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11-08-2010, 11:51 PM
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Amazing. I will have to polish and lacquer my 2nd set.
Hope you weren't smoking when you sprayed that stuff. I probably would have seen the fireball from Indiana. PM me a mailing address and I'll drop the one chocolate brown inner I have into a padded envelope for you. No indicator line on it. No significant defects. If you'd send me back one (or both?) of your indicator-lined dark/purple inner knobs, it would be most appreciated.
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11-08-2010, 11:59 PM
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11-09-2010, 12:12 AM
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Here is some info on MEK health concerns I believe it's also a common ingredient in paint strippers. That's one reason why I like the Citrus based strippers.
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11-09-2010, 12:26 AM
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 FWIW, I lightly polished this 1937 Silvertone console radio bezel and then sealed it with Dupli-Color Truck and Van Clearcoat Lacquer. It didn't discolor and it's been several years now with no changes. It's more copper than brass, was bright green when I found it. I didn't polish it clean, tried to leave some of the character. Came out well. Don't know if Duplicolor paint has MEK in it, will have to check... Bob, PM received, the knob will go out Tuesday.
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11-09-2010, 07:58 AM
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Enjoy the hazardous chemicals while you can; so many lacquers today are being quietly removed and dumbed down into "safe" stuff like enamels, that don't work as well or dry as fast.
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11-10-2010, 07:57 AM
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That TV is going to be beautiful. That cabinet is great!
Ditto on the chemicals. So much stuff is no longer available. I've used alot of chemicals in my time. Always had plenty of ventilation when using them. I'm still here.
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11-11-2010, 12:46 AM
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Thanks. A filter mask / respirator is a good idea too. Especially when spraying larger cabinets.
Eric's AC plug arrived today. After much cursing, I got the old one out and the new one wired in! I also gave the donated HV cover a couple coats of satin black enamel.   Although the picture looks fine, the sync has been very touchy. So I checked the sync tubes again and found the 6AL5 was weak. I popped a new one in and the sync is rock solid now  Won't be long before I can call this one done 
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