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Old 01-26-2021, 11:45 AM
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I still maintain that it's an oil cap.
Consider the Zenith safety cap used in the 25FC58 or so. The original American Radionic cap. When I replaced them, I would take the hammer to them to see what caused them to fail. There was a oily film to the inside.
I never smashed the orange Spragues, as the were always good.

Let's see here... crypt scribbling on the lower right corner, shedded pieces of wax from a dying cap, 3 paper cap (bombs), that are screaming to be replaced, , a soldering iron accident with the blue wire on the lower left corner, and what seems to be magnet wire very close to a metal chassis,

but, that's just a guess!
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:57 PM
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So I have the picture looking pretty good but the audio is now quieter and there's a loud hum drowning it out. I think it has to do with the vertical because turning the height and linearity controls makes the hum quieter.
Edit: upon further inspection it appears the audio output tube had gone bad between now and when I started this project, as the emmissions now test bad.

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Old 01-27-2021, 11:34 AM
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So I have the picture looking pretty good but the audio is now quieter and there's a loud hum drowning it out. I think it has to do with the vertical because turning the height and linearity controls makes the hum quieter.
Edit: upon further inspection it appears the audio output tube had gone bad between now and when I started this project, as the emmissions now test bad.

The voltage on the cathode of the audio output(pin 1) supplies 135v to the audio IF, tuner, video IF, and video out circuits. Basically the tube is used as a b+ dropper to supply the lower b+. If you operate the TV with the audio output tube pulled, those other circuits will loose their b+. Good to verify that 135v volts is in the ballpark.

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Old 01-31-2021, 04:46 AM
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The voltage on the cathode of the audio output(pin 1) supplies 135v to the audio IF, tuner, video IF, and video out circuits. Basically the tube is used as a b+ dropper to supply the lower b+. If you operate the TV with the audio output tube pulled, those other circuits will loose their b+. Good to verify that 135v volts is in the ballpark.
I finally figured it out, one of the 6AL5 tubes wasn't making a good connection in its socket, and after moving it around a bit the audio comes in just fine.
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Old 02-01-2021, 12:13 PM
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I finally figured it out, one of the 6AL5 tubes wasn't making a good connection in its socket, and after moving it around a bit the audio comes in just fine.
That is why cleaning all tube pins and sockets is one of the FIRST things that I do in any restoration.

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Old 02-01-2021, 03:44 PM
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That is why cleaning all tube pins and sockets is one of the FIRST things that I do in any restoration.

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I had a problem with my Zenith 25MC33 color roundie where it looked like the horizontal AFC diodes had failed, classic symptom. I replaced them only to find the problem was a dirty socket for the horizontal oscillator tube.
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Old 02-04-2021, 04:05 PM
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The new picture tube arrived today, and after installing it the picture looks great. I have full contrast and the brightness works fully with a nice sharp picture. It looks a bit dim in the photo because it was in a well lit room at the time.
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Old 02-04-2021, 04:14 PM
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Good deal. And that has got to be about the roundest test pattern one could expect , which means you have it adjusted perfectly.
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Old 02-04-2021, 06:06 PM
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The new picture tube arrived today, and after installing it the picture looks great. I have full contrast and the brightness works fully with a nice sharp picture. It looks a bit dim in the photo because it was in a well lit room at the time.
I'm glad it worked out for you!
It was quite a hassle. First the power transformer, then the vertical output transformer and all the rest of the parts and work that was involved.
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