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kvflyer · #31 07-06-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KV-1926R

I'm sure that everyone who has been following this topic already knows this, but I'll be the one to actually say it: that seller is a moron.

I have been down this road more times than I want to tell you. My first experience was with an Admiral Bakelite table top set, 16R12. Below is a link to an ad on the Internet of the set. What I have is the console below in the ad.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/70039806@N00/6408153567/

That set was in a thin single layer cardboard box, with one thickness of Styrofoam peanuts. Sent UPS, need I describe how it arrived? I didn't think so. I needed chassis parts but had the cabinet been good when it arrived, it too could have been a candidate for restoration too. It became a squirting contest (description of the contest has been edited for decorum

) that I gave up on since the sale price was so cheap.

Recently, I got an Admiral 19A1. This one only had one crack and it was on the bottom, rear. I informed the seller but didn't pursue any compensation. JB Weld will fix it.

So, I feel your pain. The damage that you have encountered could be repaired if that set was a one-of-a-kind. But it will take days of jigsaw puzzle type work.

I have shipped many items to Japan, Korea, Russia, Finland, Spain etc. and have no damage don to the item. It only takes common sense don't ya think?

Hope you can work it out...

Jon A. · #32 07-06-2013, 08:12 AM

I have had only one item damaged in transit, a 1982 Ford AM-FM 8-track stereo that took a serious whang to the volume control/tape program change shaft. I straightened it as best as I could, but it's still not quite right. If it had been the tuning control shaft, I could have just cut it off, pulled it out from behind and replaced it with the shaft from my 1975 parts stereo. Unfortunately the shaft that got bent appears to be permanently attached to what I remember is a five-ganged control. If the control from my '75 can be swapped in at all, I'm going to need to change the PCB it's attached to. I won't part out my other '82, it's too nice even though the factory power and speaker connectors are cut off.

kramden66 · #33 07-06-2013, 10:52 AM

three of the four cracks are on the bottom so it wont show when on display , the one in the lower corner of the screen is the one that will show , so if you glue it and do a good job it wont be perfect but presentable

mike

Sparky · #34 07-09-2013, 09:04 PM

Option 3 after notifying the seller, he agreed to a refund of my asking. I haven't asked yet, not knowing what a fair refund should be. Now I still await your opinions for estimates of what a fair price would be. I bought it for over $100, so would half of the purchase be proper? Please respond as I haven't had anything this expensive that has been broken before and don't know what is fair to ask.

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1 Do I destroy the TV by shipping back at no expense to me in his box?
2 Do I ship it back at my expense hoping not to destroy it further, maybe he'll pay the difference?
3 Or do I keep it, starting a claim to get some money back?

Does anyone have a fair estimate to give seeing the damage in the picture for either time or $?

I still await your comments and opinions.

ChrisW6ATV · #35 07-09-2013, 11:04 PM

Half of your total price (with shipping) may be reasonable, yes. That is simple and easy.

You can look at it a bunch of ways: You still have a chassis with unbroken CRT, and a cabinet that seems repairable. On the other hand, the cost to do repairs to the cabinet (if feasible) are not cheap either. How much thinking do you want to put into it?

Sparky · #36 07-12-2013, 09:12 AM

Request denied! Take this man to the cooler!

Seller says I am unreasonable and it's not my call, said he sent a UPS call tag (never told me) and that I have to give him the set back and that I must accept a full refund. Hello eBay claim and dispute resolution centre.
As to how much I am thinking of putting in to it, well I work for me, and the labour rates are reasonable. Enough to make it a showpiece. I'm the guy what stoofs old paper caps and fashions new components to look old. So yes, as needed. And I am also a demented ham what builds his own equipment from scratch.

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Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV

Half of your total price (with shipping) may be reasonable, yes. That is simple and easy.

You can look at it a bunch of ways: You still have a chassis with unbroken CRT, and a cabinet that seems repairable. On the other hand, the cost to do repairs to the cabinet (if feasible) are not cheap either. How much thinking do you want to put into it?

Yes you are correct I speak with foreign (UK) English and spelling.

kramden66 · #37 07-12-2013, 10:31 AM

UPS that says it all for me , i know fedex or u.s. mail aren't much better but that conveyour belt system breaks things way too often at the united package smashers, so i've had better survival rate with other shippers.

mike

Sparky · #38 07-13-2013, 07:38 AM

I have never had a disaster with FedEx, ever. Any other service, I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how may damaged packages.

As far as the refund on the TV it's in the Ebay-PayPal gods' hands for now. The seller claims that he told me to repackage the TV and he would send a call tag. I never received such info..ever. The fact that he wants to ship it back in the same useless box speaks volumes. If it doesn't go my way I know I'll be finishing the TV off for good shipping it back. He seemed apologetic when I showed him the pictures and agreed to a partial refund, the just got all weird when I told him the conditions, half.
When the dust settles I may indeed post the text transactions and the auction info. I would take opinions on whether to do that or not.

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Originally Posted by kramden66

UPS that says it all for me , i know fedex or u.s. mail aren't much better but that conveyour belt system breaks things way too often at the united package smashers, so i've had better survival rate with other shippers.

mike

kvflyer · #39 07-13-2013, 09:00 AM

Most of the time I have had problems when something which was not properly packaged was shipped to me. What really irritates me is that you have to use your money to send it back and only then, can you hope to get a refund. I have bought and sold on eBay literally thousands of times. Only a few times, have items been destroyed. But in every case (except one) the damage was done because of insufficient packaging. The item must NOT be able to move around inside of the box. And if the box is not sturdy enough, it must be enclosed in another sturdy box with packing insulating the inside box.

I know, I know that I am preaching to the choir. Just offering empathy for your situation.

FedEx has by far done the least amount of damage to my stuff however...

cwmoser · #40 07-13-2013, 09:43 AM

What happened here is the major reason I don't sell any of my stuff on Ebay.
I don't have a stock of boxes and protection material to protect large
items like radios and small TVs. And, prospective buyers don't want
to pay to have somebody like a UPS store double box it.

I think I'll just want for the next Charlotte CC-AWA auction and sell stuff there.
Won't command Ebay prices but there no boxing up hassels is required, sales
are final, and buyer gets to look at item without pictures and detailed descriptions.

Carl

Jon A. · #41 07-16-2013, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Request denied! Take this man to the cooler!

The cooler's too good for this guy. He's no Steve McQueen (a reference to The Great Escape if anyone's wondering).

Sparky · #42 07-18-2013, 08:22 PM

Well it looks like I'll have to send it back to the seller. He/she/it will accept nothing less than me shipping it back in the original box and destroying it because they think they will get a UPS insurance settlement for their crappy packaging. They also ramble on about having me removed from eBay and calling the police. Well there you go. Escalation begins soon. eBay is useless and keeps changing their story of my final outcome.

kvflyer · #43 07-19-2013, 01:42 PM

So must you pay for the return shipping without reimbursement?

bandersen · #44 07-19-2013, 02:02 PM

I was in a similar situation with a ruined Admiral bakelite set. I sent it back (no charge) but UPS refused to settle claiming it was improperly packed. Then I had to fight with the seller to get my money back.

My 2 cents is to keep it and restore it. I have a cabinet with some minor damage for sale here: http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...15&postcount=4

Sparky · #45 07-20-2013, 12:53 AM

I was told by eBay that all I'll get is the full money back but in the process of escalation (one click away). They also told me they have no way to get a partial refund from the seller, and that I have to ship it back in the same box. This as I have said will destroy it for good. The seller has threatened me and f-bombed me and eBay says just escalate it and get your money back.

Thanks Bob but I can re-glue the pieces back. And I don't have the heart to spend any more money on this for someones carelessness and stupidity.

So I ask for everyone's opinions for the last time, refund or no refund.

1) I have to waste my time to repackage this and bring it to UPS. All without re-compensation, and live with the memory of destroying the TV.

2) Or accept the damage and get screwed on the sale.

Time is running out and I accept all opinions and you may simply answer 1 or 2, or elaborate more about your vote. Thanks.