Bel-Aire TV / Clock / AM Radio

[maxhifi]

Originally Posted by TerrySmith

Also looks like some butcherin' around the HOT socket, I would verify the parts values before powering up.

That is a very interesting set, can't wait to see the video and the finished product! I wonder why the chassis is designed with the tubes inboard?

Looking closely at the inside of the set, it looks like the two sections of the TV chassis were originally designed to go behind each other, back to back, like the RCA 8 inch portable. My guess is, the chassis and CRT bezel were designed for an 8 inch portable with a metal cabinet, bought as surplus, and later adapted to this use. The rear section of the chassis had to be flipped around in order to move the tuner to the front of the cabinet, and in the process access to tubes got blocked off.

The radio and transformer section looks a bit thrown together, and would not have been part of the original portable TV design.

[leadlike]

I've had luck measuring burned resistors, and finding that they hadn't drifted that far off value. Maybe you'll be in luck....

[tubetwister]

maybe 1960 ?

[bandersen]

I received a partial translation of the label inside the cabinet. Since the label is right next to the clock, it might just apply to it.

"I can't make out the bottom line (aside from Tokyo and some characters that suggest the rest is a company name), but the first two lines read:

Type 1

Kanzen Taisui Hoshou [cutoff] -- Guaranteed Completely Waterproof

Not sure why you'd need your clock/tv/radio to be waterproof though."

[maxhifi]

Originally Posted by bandersen

I received a partial translation of the label inside the cabinet. Since the label is right next to the clock, it might just apply to it.

"I can't make out the bottom line (aside from Tokyo and some characters that suggest the rest is a company name), but the first two lines read:

Type 1

Kanzen Taisui Hoshou [cutoff] -- Guaranteed Completely Waterproof

Not sure why you'd need your clock/tv/radio to be waterproof though."

This label is probably for the plywood the cabinet is made from.

[bandersen]

Another one just showed up on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1960...-/130640907610

Lots of good reference photos

[maxhifi]

I was excited until I saw the price - $195 plus $129 shipping to canada! Phew, that's a lot of money for this thing, especially considering it needs $50 of parts, and there's no gaurantee it'll survive shipping. I don't see why shipping is so expensive, it's only 30 lbs.

[Jeffhs]

Originally Posted by maxhifi

I was excited until I saw the price - $195 plus $129 shipping to canada! Phew, that's a lot of money for this thing, especially considering it needs $50 of parts, and there's no gaurantee it'll survive shipping. I don't see why shipping is so expensive, it's only 30 lbs.

Where in the item description is it mentioned that the TV needs $50 worth of parts before it will work? It looks as if it's working quite well as it is, except for a vertical sweep problem (the seller did mention trouble with the vertical sweep, which probably could be compensated for by a slight adjustment of the vertical size control on the back of the set). Unless there is something else wrong with the TV, such as broken, shorted or out-of-tolerance parts, I can't see why this would need anything even close to $50 worth of replacement components. If the flyback or some other major component were defective or getting there, yes, I could see it, but since the TV's picture looks almost normal, again, a simple adjustment of the vertical size control could very well solve the sweep problem.

Speaking of tubes, I doubt very much that this TV is all solid-state as the seller claims. I could swear I saw at least one octal tube socket on a PC board in one of the rear-chassis views. Maybe the radio is all-SS, but the television looks to have at least one tube (maybe the HV rectifier?) besides the CRT.

Shipping charges may be so high because this TV will have to go through customs and who knows what else on its way to Canada from the US.

[maxhifi]

It's full of those grey japanese capacitors which have a reputation for leakage. I would not feel comfortable using it regularly with those plus original electrolytics. If it has a few bad tubes, 50 bucks will come up very fast.

Customs is paid on the receivng end, not the sending end - and would be in addition to whatever I paid the seller. There is a profit margin added to that shipping quote which may be considerable.

It is a tube chassis, the tubes all face in due to the fact it's a portable chassis repurposed to fit the cabinet.

Actually despite my feeling that it's priced high, I'm seriously considering it. It's only money after all, and I haven't got a new (old) TV this year I may be waiting a while before this one comes up again too. There's something about this set that appeals to me - maybe because it's a bit of an oddball.

[Sandy G]

When you look at it like THAT-Go For It !

[bandersen]

Yeah, go for it! Then we can compare notes

BTW the shipping shows up as $49 to Chicago.

[kx250rider]

I'm first bidder, and would rather have found one for $50, but I want it. I don't plan to get in a bidding war, though. Don't need it that badly. Just for the record, I saw it & bid before visiting VK this morning.

Charles

[maxhifi]

Originally Posted by kx250rider

I'm first bidder, and would rather have found one for $50, but I want it. I don't plan to get in a bidding war, though. Don't need it that badly. Just for the record, I saw it & bid before visiting VK this morning.

Charles

I don't want it bad enough for a bidding war either the price is rather high, and it does not need to go higher - taking shipping into consideration it's a much better deal for you than for me, and you're probably better equipped to get it into shape. I also have two TVs which are not restored sitting in my basement, so practically speaking I *need* it like a hole in the head.

[bandersen]

The auction ended. Did anyone here get it ?

[Roland]

Your TV seems to be a Egawadenki Kenkyusho 8-HL rebuild.
My set was sold as a Rocket television. But I think Egawadenki Kenkyusho
made several private label TV sets. So why don't put in a radio also?

http://www.gloeidraad.nl/radioforum/index.php?id=120200

Regards, Roland