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Old 09-18-2016, 11:59 PM
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I don't know, just reminded of the silly argument I've heard before that analog formats like VHS and LaserDisc are "purer" or closer to film because film stock is also an analog medium. That might work for audio but it's laughable for video. Like eating racid dog food and believing it's your mother's home made recipe because both are labeled as "beef stew".

And I don't get what DVD being around for twenty years has anything to do with anything. It's not like both VHS and LD weren't around for decades.

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Old 09-19-2016, 06:53 AM
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I don't know, just reminded of the silly argument I've heard before that analog formats like VHS and LaserDisc are "purer" or closer to film because film stock is also an analog medium. That might work for audio but it's laughable for video. Like eating racid dog food and believing it's your mother's home made recipe because both are labeled as "beef stew".

And I don't get what DVD being around for twenty years has anything to do with anything. It's not like both VHS and LD weren't around for decades.
I disagree. I'm not going to argue much for VHS (though I could argue for S-VHS) since it's resolution limits and noise detract from the advantages of analog.

At non-HD resolution (if you can find a good analog HD source to drag this in to the 21st century I'd like to see it) LD is usually better than DVD in terms of motion capture quality...One of the compression algorithms of DVD is to take only one frame of background then record only a certain threshold of motion as motion differences to apply to the initial frame...The compression algorithm fundamentally makes coarse motion look less natural, and discards fine motion. Compressed digital video makes live action look more cartoonish than real, add mosquito noise that compression creates, and compression artifacts (we've all seen a digital video device inject some random rectangles in our picture before) and you can really see the difference.

Uncompressed digital can be as good as analog, but that is a rare bird.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:18 AM
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I don't know, just reminded of the silly argument I've heard before that analog formats like VHS and LaserDisc are "purer" or closer to film because film stock is also an analog medium. That might work for audio but it's laughable for video. Like eating racid dog food and believing it's your mother's home made recipe because both are labeled as "beef stew".

And I don't get what DVD being around for twenty years has anything to do with anything. It's not like both VHS and LD weren't around for decades.
He doesn't get it. I'm not going to bother explaining.
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:17 PM
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You guys must have WAY better AV gear and eyes than me. Bye.
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:43 AM
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No need to get mad. It is what it is. 20 years for the DVD format is long enough in my book. I'm sick of seeing scratched up discs at thrift and pawn shops for $2 and $3. You know they wont work half the time. Same thing happened with video games. Cartridges were more reliable and handled better with children. I see so many games on the shelf now that look like they were never stored in they're cases. Bottom line: I'm always going to stand up for older, more reliable, better built items. Same reason I drive a 37 year old car. Hardly ever have to do anything to it. just try to show a love for most things and not just the digital junk that's taking over. The high definition tv thing is the biggest joke yet. Crt should have remained standard in every home.
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:38 AM
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There are polishing systems for discs...I once got a sub 1$ kit at ACE hardware to try making a 'dirty' DVD I found in the woods play...It had been out there a long time and was so scratched it looked like someone had took sand paper to it...I was able to make it play decently.
Better players will be able to play worse discs.

It does seem some products have lost quality.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:20 AM
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Yes. The Gamexchange here has a polishing machine here. When I worked at a game store, we had one. Actually went through two of them. Cost was up in the 4 digit range. Quality hasn't been much of a concern lately. For example, my mother in law and my sister in law both have wen through countless cheap microwave oven from WalMart. They might last a year or two. I have one from 1978 and two vintage Amana Radaranges from around that time. Bothe are chromed out with stainless steel interior. Only thing they needed were new bulbs. These are over 30 years old and still going. I bought all 3 of these at separate times. In the event one does quit, I can use one of the others while I repair it. High quality, well built, and tough as hell. Not like the $60 and $100 junk at WalMart. I don't trust the flat screens either. Most from what I've heard are built to last the warranty. After that, the set quits and your stuck.
Most non-repairable. I have a refrigerator from 1984 that works great. I also have a black and silver refrigerator that I picked up for free. Only thing wrong was the fan blades fell off the spindle in the back of the freezer. Since then, I've already had to replace the start/run cap on the compressor. $15 part. Not bad for a 2005 model though.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:29 PM
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There are polishing systems for discs...I once got a sub 1$ kit at ACE hardware to try making a 'dirty' DVD I found in the woods play...It had been out there a long time and was so scratched it looked like someone had took sand paper to it...I was able to make it play decently.
Better players will be able to play worse discs.

It does seem some products have lost quality.
I never tried any of that .I just use mild dish soap and lukewarm water to wash the CD's or DVDs off.I do the same with my vinyl.I salvage some side of the road CDs DVDs doing that.
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Old 10-01-2016, 07:55 PM
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Today I got

Romeo Must Die (2000) - I have this recorded from DirecTV also but the pic and sound arent that good.. This one is much better
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:09 AM
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Excellent,very good!!!!!
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:43 PM
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Who am I? - 1998
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:10 AM
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I last got the movie MURDER AT 1600 (1997) on VHS
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:12 PM
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Just ordered "A Goofy Movie" on VHS thru Amazon...


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Old 12-03-2016, 09:14 AM
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Last VHS purchase was a Sony DVD/VCR in Dec 2007.

Last videotape purchase was probably blanks in the early or mid 2000s. Last actual movie was probably in early 2000s, likely Toy Story 2 or Stuart Little.
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:39 PM
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Today I got a movie

1) Blade Runner - 1982 (Unrated version)

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