Overrun by Zenith modules!!!

[zeno]

I never knew they built that set. It wasnt in any of the sales or service
litt.
As far as being in the sticks NTSC on VHF can easily go 200 miles. When the
Boston stations used to go off at nite all the NYC VHF's had a watchable signal at apx 200 mi. That from a low elevation with a big antenna.
Used to be common up in northern N.H. to see TV antennas on towers
just to squeeze out a few more stations, probably from PQ & in french.
With a little ducting the Boston & Portland stations probably made it over the
White Mountains also.

73 Zeno
LFOD !

Originally Posted by bgadow

Wow, System III is LATE for 32 volts-wow! If that was so than there would have been other 32 volt sets all along, right? But there could never have been very many of them. It would seem like by the seventies the number of folks relying on those old plants would have to be down to the dozens. How many areas of this country would be so remote to be off the main lines, but still close enough to pick up television?

[zeno]

Sounds like you have a pile of modules from the one board
sets. I dont see much good there. They also made a better chassis
with 2 boards. One for signal the other for sweep / PS. Those may be worth
saving. Then there was the "Digital System 3". Those boards are rare & often contain NLA parts. They were the best of the best & often had Bose audio.

73 Zeno
LFOD !

[Adam]

This thread is old! Since I posted this (14 years ago) I've moved from Los Angeles, to Michigan, to Tennessee, back to Michigan, to Wisconsin, then here to Arizona. I still have a few boxes of CCII era modules, but sold most of that system 3 stuff long ago. When I moved from Los Angeles to Michigan (in 2009) I sold (or gave away) a lot of stuff before I went.

[NowhereMan 1966]

EVen so, keep your eye out for any 9-181-02 or higher and 9-186-01 or higher.

BTW, I remember in the late 1980;s when WTAE-TV went off the air in Pittsburgh, there were times I received WRC-TV from Washington DC on channel 4, most likely tropo.

[Jon1967us]

What were the old TV repair pros expected to do with the bad modules? Send them back, throw em away or keep and repair?

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by Jon1967us

What were the old TV repair pros expected to do with the bad modules? Send them back, throw em away or keep and repair?

There was usually core charge/value associated with the old modules I've read.

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by zeno

I never knew they built that set. It wasnt in any of the sales or service
litt.
As far as being in the sticks NTSC on VHF can easily go 200 miles. When the
Boston stations used to go off at nite all the NYC VHF's had a watchable signal at apx 200 mi. That from a low elevation with a big antenna.
Used to be common up in northern N.H. to see TV antennas on towers
just to squeeze out a few more stations, probably from PQ & in french.
With a little ducting the Boston & Portland stations probably made it over the
White Mountains also.

73 Zeno
LFOD !

Speaking of being in the sticks and having large tower antennas and 32V Delco Generators, my dad's parents lived in an old family farm in Culver, Indiana (yes THAT Culver, that's home to the Culver Military Academy), and the farm was built in 1920 by my Great-Great Grandpa Poland and the house was the first home in rural Marshall County, Indiana to have Electricity in the form of a 32V DC Delco Generator that was housed in the basement of the farmhouse, and it also was the first house that had indoor plumbing in Culver, Indiana at the time.

My dad told me when he was a kid in the late 1960's and early 1970s (he was born in 1962) his parents had an old Color TV that was hooked up to a large 75' Tower Antenna and they were able to pick up WGN Channel 9 out of Chicago on their TV during the day, and the section of Chicago that WGN-TV Studios were located in was about 125 miles from Culver, Indiana, and I always thought it was interesting.

In fact here in the middle of the Midwestern USA where its basically nothing but flat land for miles around I wouldn't of been surprised if VHF TV Signals wouldn't of traveled maybe 350+ miles.

Unfortunately ALL of the TV stations in Northcentral, Indiana, and even in Northeast, Indiana adopted UHF early on (all of the mainstream channels ABC, CBS, NBC, plus a few independent stations and Fox when it came into existence) were all UHF Stations and no VHF Stations left in all of these areas, the original ABC Affiliate station in Northcentral Indiana was on UHF Channel 28 (then later on moved to channel 58, then to 57, when a local Fox Affiliate came into existence in the late 1990s, which the Fox Affiliate took over the original ABC Affiliate's Channel which was 28), the local CBS affiliate was (and still is) on UHF Channel 22, the local NBC affiliate was on UHF Channel 16 (and still is), and there was a couple of local independent stations like WHME which was a local Independent Station that was owned by a local Christian Ministry called "World Harvest Ministries" out of South Bend, Indiana, which was (and still is) on UHF Channel 46, and then TBN (Trinity Broadcast Network) had a station for a while on UHF Channel 67 (it didn't last very long, it went away right around the time of the Digital Transition), and then there was a WB (now CW) affilliate on UHF Channel 69 for a while before it was moved over to UHF channel 25 a few years before the DTV Transition (around 2004).

If you had a giant outdoor tower antenna with a rotor then you could also get the stations from Northeast Indiana (Fort Wayne, Indiana), and also Kalamazoo Michigan, and also Chicago stations (as previously mentioned) all of these examples mentioned were in the pre-ATSC OTA Television era.

Just a little interesting fun fact about TV channels in Northern, Indiana

[DavGoodlin]

Analog TV reception along the east coast was interesting after many a weather disturbance, during warmer weather. A low-pressure system creates a front along which signals effortlessly propagate. Having lived in suburban DC, south-central and eastern PA and visits to SE Florida afforded any many opportunities to witness this phenomena.

One of my favorite memories of these co-channel e-skip events at my present location was when all (7) NYC VHF channels had both pic and sound on a 1970 Zenith 16" color.

Using a mid-sized JFD LPV "fringe-rated" antenna on a rotor, then about 180 degrees in the opposite direction on other nights, Washington DC's 4-5-7-9 made a rare appearance (though only 90 miles away, DC transmitter antenna height is lower) and much closer, Baltimore's 2-11-13 were normally received so it took a freak event to blow them out in favor of NYC's 2-11-13.

The one last analog was KYW-3 Philadelphia and after June 2009, stayed on with announcements at least 8 months afterward. I suppose FCC assumed all the troglodytes farther out in the mid-state had no consistently received channel, and I could get no others. KYW's A-3 signal penetrated almost anything within 40 miles of NW Phl. I thought it appropriate that Phls' 1st channel (Philco's WPTZ) was the last analog to go.

[Hawkwind]

Your freak event was this:..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_propagation