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Old 01-31-2006, 07:54 PM
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:11 PM
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Soon I will find out!!

I just won one of those Rca cc-030 cameras on the 'bay, for the princely sum of $13.15(INCLUDING shipping!!) Now, about 20 years ago, or thereabouts, someone paid about $2,000.00 for that camera. At the time, it was about the best non-pro camera one could get!!, SS pickup, char. gen, full auto focus, color vf, etc. ( I have a bit of info on it from an rca "tech bulletin, describing the rca "digital command center, vkp-900(protable vcr, for 1984, that went for about $1300) and the cc030 camera.

Of course, I got it to play with the color viewfinder, ESPECIALLY after I found out it is an index type. I plan to do a LOT of messing with it, and see if I can get it to accept video, etc. BUT-- I do NOT plan to do any destructive testing, ie, nothing that can't be reversed, if I wanted to use the camera.

Right now, another cc030 is on the 'bay, WITH a portable vcr to go with it(a vgp-170, I think). I am the high bidder on it, at the moment, (this was before I got the other one)BUT It is still below $10, and maybe someone else might want one, I already have a portable vcr to use with my cc030.


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Old 03-25-2006, 07:16 PM
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Does anyone else think the CRT used in the CT-101 was designed for a viewfinder and later made into a TV? It seems odd to put that much money into making a TV that's too small to really use, even for personal viewing.

Speaking of viewfinders, I've played with a few from old camcorders. Most accept composite video and can easily be turned into a TV. Many use round CRTs. You could make a working scale model of a TRK12 only it would be 12mm instead of 12 inches! Even some of the color LCD viewfinders accept composite video.
Personally, I figure that ALL of the tiny crt (2" and smaller) tv's were most likely designed from EVF tubes.

I have an old (1979) EVF from an rca cc-004, and it has a 1.5" or so BW crt. It is quite densley packed inside, with a lof of "thin film Ic's" in it, and a lot of discrete parts. I plan to play with it some, as well as with the color B.I. evf I am getting from the cc-030 I just won on the bay!!
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:55 PM
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Hi Jack, if you don't mind I would like to bid on that other RCA Camera. I have a working Panasonic portable System that I bought in 1982, The camera was still a vidicon type and a friend borrowed the system to tape a Three Dog Night concert and thought it was neat how when he aimed it at the spotlights it would leave comet tails on the screen. I told him he just destroyed a $1,200.00 6 month old camera. He did not call me again for a long time. Anyway it would be neat to plug in the RCA to my "portable" system
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:51 PM
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Hi Jack, if you don't mind I would like to bid on that other RCA Camera. I have a working Panasonic portable System that I bought in 1982, The camera was still a vidicon type and a friend borrowed the system to tape a Three Dog Night concert and thought it was neat how when he aimed it at the spotlights it would leave comet tails on the screen. I told him he just destroyed a $1,200.00 6 month old camera. He did not call me again for a long time. Anyway it would be neat to plug in the RCA to my "portable" system
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Go right ahead, after all, mine is coming.I really don't need 2. As long as the connectors are compatible(and i think they are) that cco30 would make a GREAT camera for your portable vcr.
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:27 AM
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I have 2 panasonic 1.5's, one with a leather casing.I made one work with a RC car battery that i just recharge, and I tape it to the unit.The other one works well, I think, i forgot. I gotta dig-em out of storage...you just gotta dig em.
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:32 AM
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Go right ahead, after all, mine is coming.I really don't need 2. As long as the connectors are compatible(and i think they are) that cco30 would make a GREAT camera for your portable vcr.
I can get into most vintage stuff, but those old clunker vCR/camera outfits are just SO obsolete and useless compared with the modern Digicams. Still, if its obsolete, that means someones gonna want one cause they are scarce and therefore collectible I guess.On the other hand, I saw a nice betacamera I wouldnt mind having. Would i need some kind of break-out box to hook it up to table top Beta VCR?
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:57 AM
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Thank You Jack, Lets see how high it goes.
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Old 04-01-2006, 10:46 PM
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Clean dead one on eBay

Mayb you can get this one for parts?


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Old 04-03-2006, 06:48 PM
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Thumbs up I got the RCA whole porta system, wow!

The amazing thing is that everything works. No burns in the vidicon. Of course the first thing I did is take apart the viewfinder. Same CRT, high voltage section with a long anode wire so you can turn the CRT, turned the trim pot for color up a little. It is almost as big as the CT-101, the main difference I can see so far is that the top and bottom circuit boards are plugged together and lift out as a unit, the CT-101 boards are wired together and can be seperated while in operation. I will post some pics of the open viewfinder later tonight.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:25 PM
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Here are the pictures

I hope these are the pictures!
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:00 PM
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Methinks the little CT-101 has less schtuff in it than THIS thing does...
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:20 PM
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Look again........

I do NOT think that this has the same CRT as the ct-101 does!! Taks a look in your viewfinder window-- you will see a pair of photocells-- it APPEARS that these are used for EXTERNAL commutation of the indexing!! These are in FRONT of the crt, on the bottom of the eyepiece!! not to mention, the ct-101 has purity rings on the neck, and such,. There are NO such rings on this one.

Mine looks DIFFERENT on the inside that yours-- specifically, mine has MORE in it, it must be an EARLY model,yours must be a LATE model. Mine says 11/83 on the bottom.

(see my thread about mine, to see what I am talking about. )

I took apart the sleeve around the crt-- there are NO index pickups on the tube, as I said, it appears to be done by the 2 photocells in FRONT of the screen of the CRT?? But HOW could that work??
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:30 PM
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Can't really see the CRT in these photos, but what you CAN see, mine does look different. Been awhile since I had mine apart, though. I'm w/you, believe this is a different CRT than the little TV has.
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