How at old tv sets the image apears in only 5 seconds?

[domfjbrown]

Guys - with modern TVs with "standby" (ie, switched from the remote), does this do the same as instant-on, ie, keeping the filament on the CRT lit? My Sony Trinitron is NEVER left in standby (I loathe that function - and it costs up to £20 a year more in electricity!) and takes about 25 seconds (iirc) for the picture to appear (you get the "frying pan" degauss sound, and the picture only appears once the tube's fully warmed up (ie, a full-brightness picture, rather than one that fades in)).

It's had a hard life - I got it at just over a year old as ex-display from Dixons in Reading, so it was probably cooking for 8 hours a day 7 days a week. In MY house it gets maybe 10 hours a week tops and that includes DVD. I've had cable since last June, and probably watched no more than maybe 30 hours of TV (barring VHS/DVD/LD) since then... Just goes to show how much **** there is on British telly these days.

Bruce had it right when he sang "57 channels and nothing on"!!!

[rca2000]

AS far as I know, NO set made after, say 1976 or so, had instant-on.I think the NYFD, in the '70's, started a lot of commotion, about some of the I-O sets, causing a LOT of fires in NY, and, with the SO CALLED "energy crisis" of the mid-'70's, they did away with I-O.

I had an RCA Xl-100, from '73,in the '80's, that was I-O, and the CRT would come up so fast, you could SEE the degaussing action, on the screen. Looked kind of funny!!My current '92 model ctc-169, of course does NOT have I-O, and takes about 10 seconds for a picture to appear, and another 20 or so, for the brightness to fully stabilize.(of course, like any modern, digital-controlled set, it does have a standby ckt)

As for Sony's "popping" on, that is normal-- it the action of the IK ckt-- it keeps the CRT in cutoff, until it is fully warmed up.

[Carmine]

Just goes to show how much **** there is on British telly these days.

What about Coronation Street, Antiques Roadshow, and re-runs of "Are You Being Served?" I wager that American TV is worse.

[andy]

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[old_tv_nut]

In modern sets the standby current is only for the remote control - the CRT uses fast-warming cathodes that can get working in 10 or 12 seconds. Digital sets are a little different in that they will also run the tuner at times in standby mode to accumulate the program guide information.

[NowhereMan 1966]

Originally Posted by jstout66

got curious and timed my hybrid Zenith Chromacolor. It took 28 seconds to come up. My Zenith System 3 took 15 seconds. My new Toshiba, 5 seconds.

Sounds about right, I have an old Chromacolor I like to fix someday, a 1970 23" Zenith I like to fix someday. I remember back in 1981 when President Ronald Reagan was shot, I was in 8th grade. I got home from school, turned the Zenith on and I heard a lot of commotion from the ABC special report as the sound was coming on and I kept saying to the set, "come on, picture warm up, I wanna see what's going on!" IIRC, when you turned the Chromacolor on, you heard a quick buzz from the transformer.

[domfjbrown]

Originally Posted by Carmine

What about Coronation Street, Antiques Roadshow, and re-runs of "Are You Being Served?" I wager that American TV is worse.

Two out of three aren't bad, but CORRIE? Are you SERIOUS? AWFUL programme - hated it since I first stumbled on it (my parents are avid fans). I was an Eastenders boy, but have weened myself off of ALL soap operas now.

Don't forget "Are you being served" is a re-run, as you mentioned. Most of the decent Brit telly was over by the early 90s, when the rash of pants "reality TV" and home improvement programmes started poisoning our listings.

Some US stuff *is* actually better, or was - e.g. McGuiver, A-Team, Miami Vice, Freinds, Southpark, Frasier, Cheers etc etc. About the only decent stuff I've seen that's been real Brit (rather than imported) recently was "The Rotters Club" on BBC2, and that was only 3 episodes - but brilliant.

[Telecolor 3007]

At my soviet "Rekord" (which when I get me more money I want to restore it) the image apears after 1 minute (60 seconds). At my hybrid "Normende" Color Prasident with 4 tubes the image apears afet 32-33 seconds.

[Telecolor 3007]

I was worng. At my "Normende" the image aperas after 35 seconds.