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Old 03-07-2011, 06:09 PM
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I pulled the dash monitor out of an '89 Buick Riviera at Pick-A-Part, just out of curiosity (paid $12 for it, if I recall). It was a Zenith monochrome monitor. I don't remember it being a touch-screen, but I don't know. It was definitely monochrome (amber CRT) though.

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On the Oldsmobile Trofeo...the CRT monitor IS a color one--and the tube IS a trinitron, with the touch-plate in front of it, the VIC monitor unit is a LOT bigger and heavier than the Zenith 5" green one you(and I) have lying around, The case says "Sony trinitron" (along with "Denso"), and the tube has the trinitron label--and look--about it. Like the green Riviera monitor--the Desno/Sony one is WAY overbuilt, with a HUGE flyback and heat sinks inside of it--for a 5" color monitor--compared to a normal 5" color set. .

I guess that GM decided to "go one better" when the decided to put a touch-screen computer option on the Trofeo from 89-92, and made it in color and MUCH easier--and more user-friendly--to use. (I have owned 3 of the Riv's over the last 20 years with the green touch-screen, I liked them, but they are NOWHERE NEAR as nice--or as easy to use-- as the color one in my 89 Trofeo is.) GM had even planned for a GPS system on them--but the system was not ready in time(probably due to the shuttle disaster.)

If only the VIC system would have 'caught on " back then--instead of OVER 10 YEARS later .
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:39 AM
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On the Oldsmobile Trofeo...the CRT monitor IS a color one--and the tube IS a trinitron, with the touch-plate in front of it, the VIC monitor unit is a LOT bigger and heavier than the Zenith 5" green one you(and I) have lying around, The case says "Sony trinitron" (along with "Denso"), and the tube has the trinitron label--and look--about it. Like the green Riviera monitor--the Desno/Sony one is WAY overbuilt, with a HUGE flyback and heat sinks inside of it--for a 5" color monitor--compared to a normal 5" color set. .

I guess that GM decided to "go one better" when the decided to put a touch-screen computer option on the Trofeo from 89-92, and made it in color and MUCH easier--and more user-friendly--to use. (I have owned 3 of the Riv's over the last 20 years with the green touch-screen, I liked them, but they are NOWHERE NEAR as nice--or as easy to use-- as the color one in my 89 Trofeo is.) GM had even planned for a GPS system on them--but the system was not ready in time(probably due to the shuttle disaster.)

If only the VIC system would have 'caught on " back then--instead of OVER 10 YEARS later .
Now my curiosity is killing me... I saw a Trofeo at the junkyard last week. Not sure of the year, or if it has the touch screen dash... I'm going to go check asap, and I'll harvest that monitor if it's still there

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Old 03-08-2011, 03:53 PM
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Took my 10FMR20 apart today. I'm going to change out the 'lytics. It's a nasty little cuss to work on. One of the cabinet sides fell on the concrete floor and shattered like glass. Ordinarilly, you have to beat that BP with a hammer to break it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:54 PM
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ABS plastic can get very brittle with age, heat, UV. Some batches seem to age very rapidly, and can be like glass after only a few years.
How true! I junked a Sharp BPC that was literally fell apart. I hit it gently along the top, above the CRT, and the plastic shattered. Easiest junking I've ever done. My local (literally right behind me) plastics company says that some household cleaners contain chemicals that can mimic the "curing chemistry," causing the plastic to become brittle. That's probably what happened to my Sharp - prior to that, it sat undisturbed for 8+ years as a VCR test monitor.

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Old 03-09-2011, 10:50 AM
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ABS plastic can get very brittle with age, heat, UV. Some batches seem to age very rapidly, and can be like glass after only a few years.
YES. I've had several sets just disintegrate into shards when I went to pick them up. Particularly Sonys of the 90s. In fact, when I was working at a TV shop several years ago, someone carried in a KV-25XBR (the original 1983 one), and it was sitting on the incoming shelves.... I heard a loud noise, and the weight of the CRT caused the cabinet to just fall in like an abandoned building being imploded

Needless to say, the customer accused us of dropping it.

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