The solution for swamped Goodwill stores.

[electroking]

Hello again,

Here is the link I mentioned earlier. A more intelligent way to do it, and it provides
work for a number of people. Text in German, but easily understood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8VfcmKDLiw

[similost]

Very interesting..

[Eric H]

This one has a lot of people upset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQs5hchKCAM

[zenithfan1]

Ahhhhhhh! Noooooooooo!! Not asteroids!!!!!!!! Say it aint so!!!!!!! I could hear the CRT implode.

[Hemingray]

Slightly off topic but related, anyone ever think of making their own arcade cabinet using one of those NAMCO game joysticks they sell in walmart? I'm thinking of making one.

[bgadow]

Man, that thing is one bad apple scrapple!

I can see where this could be very useful. There are so many things that just aren't worth the time to properly seperate for recycling. How long would it take to totally disassemble a tv, a vcr, a car...this machine can be part of an automated process that works quite well.

It is sad, but we can't save them all. We always hate to see yet another old tv set thrown in the dumpster or turned into a cat box, or whatever. Well, what are you gonna do about it? Are YOU going to drive 6 hours one way to rescue a '56 RCA bw console with loose veneer and a tired crt? Are YOU going to pay shipping to bring a Curtis Mathes cross country? I don't want Chromacolor II's to meet the shredder-but I don't have the room for a dozen of them.

[radiotvnut]

Originally Posted by bgadow

Man, that thing is one bad apple scrapple!

I can see where this could be very useful. There are so many things that just aren't worth the time to properly seperate for recycling. How long would it take to totally disassemble a tv, a vcr, a car...this machine can be part of an automated process that works quite well.

It is sad, but we can't save them all. We always hate to see yet another old tv set thrown in the dumpster or turned into a cat box, or whatever. Well, what are you gonna do about it? Are YOU going to drive 6 hours one way to rescue a '56 RCA bw console with loose veneer and a tired crt? Are YOU going to pay shipping to bring a Curtis Mathes cross country? I don't want Chromacolor II's to meet the shredder-but I don't have the room for a dozen of them.

That is a good point. I see stuff all the time that I'd grab in a heartbeat IF I were closer. But, it's just not practical to make a long trip to save something that is in bad shape or not worth much in any condition. It would be memorable if I ever told my Mother "we must drive to St. Louis to save a '69 Zenith and a '76 Porta-Color or they will be destroyed". Heck, it would be hard to convince her to drive that far to save a CT-100!

I know there are many idiots in this world that would destroy something of interest because they know it will irritate us; but, I've met many people that have said "I wish I'd a known you wanted 'xxx' before I threw it out". I've even been guilty of tossing stuff because I couldn't find anyone to take it and I was tired of tripping over it.

All we can do is beat the bushes in our own corners of the world in order to save what we can!

[AnalogDigit]

Originally Posted by Arkay

I don't think it is an environmental nightmare. I think it is part of an environmental solution, if used properly. Some of that gear should be mechanically separated first, but once certain parts have been removed for separate processing, a lot of gear can be turned into more manageable material for recycling, and some things can be separated out in later stages using various magnets and filters, temperature, etc... in a flow process, which might be efficient and effective if set up right.

I agree. They should strip down the materials and separate them. But I'm wondering what kind of toxic dust is released into the atmosphere when they do shred things like picture tubes and circuit boards?

[eberts]

Originally Posted by AnalogDigit

I agree. They should strip down the materials and separate them. But I'm wondering what kind of toxic dust is released into the atmosphere when they do shred things like picture tubes and circuit boards?

They do seperate the materials after shredding.
They use a magnetic conveyer belt to pull metal out of the mix, it travels right to a collection box. the plastic goes to another box, the aluminum goes to another.
Depending on who buys a shredder and it's use, some have a fume collection hood over them to collect the dust.
Look at the vid with the whole parking lot filled up with stacks of old refrigerators.
Where is the fridge collectors forum ?

[eberts]

Originally Posted by electroking

Hello again,

Here is the link I mentioned earlier. A more intelligent way to do it, and it provides
work for a number of people. Text in German, but easily understood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8VfcmKDLiw

That method is not the most effecient.
Shredding can be done 24 hours a day, and handle very large volume of items in a short period of time. The shredders can be mounted on a truck, moved to different locations, so energy is not wasted moving junk around three times. Don't need to build a whole factory for one task, then what do you do with it after all the tubes have been dismantled in the world ? Shred the factory.

[Brian]

That is one dangerous system. Has anyone ever seen what can happen to a crt that implodes. Can be worse than a shotgun.

I dare not show it to Jr. as he will freak if he saw those Macs being destroyed. He has 1 newer unit in his computer room offline but will not give it up and a couple of the same model as in the vid downstairs and refuses to give them up. I think he salvaged him from a pile on a recycling day when we went to the local dump. We dropped of a couple of thinks but I think after he got done we took more home than leaving.

[electroking]

Originally Posted by eberts

That method is not the most effecient.
Shredding can be done 24 hours a day, and handle very large volume of items in a short period of time. The shredders can be mounted on a truck, moved to different locations, so energy is not wasted moving junk around three times. Don't need to build a whole factory for one task, then what do you do with it after all the tubes have been dismantled in the world ? Shred the factory.

I beg to disagree, of course. The container with used deflection yokes
has maybe 80% pure copper in it. If you feed that to a copper smelter,
you will get very good copper with minimal energy expense and pollution,
whereas if you were to attempt to extract copper from the homogeneous
mixture of junk, all kinds of noxious fumes would have to be processed.

Furthermore, a lot of transportation does take place with all the new
goods and raw materials being carried around, so having some junk
carried on return trips is no big deal. And a dismantling factory like
this will be able to feed itself indefinitely on used small and big appliances,
car radios, etc. Of course if you have shares in the mining industry,
it is in your interest that as much good recyclable metal as possible
be wasted so you can justify continued operation of your industry,
but all in all recycling is a good idea, and efficient recycling a better idea.
Good night.

[zenith2134]

Electroking has a good point. New products use up a lot of resources. While it is a good idea to continue recycling metals and plastics, it is a shame that so much (maybe even the majority?) of the USA's recyclable waste gets carted away to China for a quick profit during a time when it could be used here. IMO, we desperately need to conserve natural resources as a planet, and cut down on new products. But the western world has set a pretty poor example for the future, unfortunately.

[Alucard]

why couldnt they give all the stuff to me first instead of DESTROYING IT FOREVER

those two videos made me cry