Black Friday Tv Report

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by Bill R

When lcd sets are 50 years old they will be dirt cheap as well.

50-years? I predict they'll be dirt cheap in less than 5.

I understand that the old sets were actually pricier than they are today, but back then it was something you decorated around, shopped for, and paid to service. They were also the "first" of something quite magical.

Modern sets, as wonderful as they are, are simply commodities puked out of the same factory in the Donhg-Fwack province of China. I can spend .01% of the money, and buy something that does the job 90% as well that can be repaired when it breaks.

People don't hate Lowes & Depot because they don't have the reputation of filing briefs on behalf of Chinese electronic companies for the WTO, just so they could keep dumping $149 TV sets down our throats.

http://www.nlcnet.org/campaigns/arch...port/RCA.shtml

Plus Lowes & Depot don't have parking lots filled with poopy diapers!

[Kiwick]

Originally Posted by Bill R

When lcd sets are 50 years old they will be dirt cheap as well.
Bill R

LCD sets will not be dirt cheap 50 yrs from now, they'll just be dirt

[jln1966]

A Wal Mart employee in New York got trampled and died on Black Friday. The door of the store got tore off the hinges. As emergency people tried to revive him people just stepped over him. When they closed the store the shoppers got angry and said they waiting since Thursday morning. They werent going to let anything like somebody dying come between them and getting that piece of crap 19" Sansui flat screen that weighs 2 pounds in the box. What has this world come to? Very sad.
John

[meggy]

I think a lot of people equate getting a perceived "bargain" as the same thing as saving money.

[MRX37]

"SAVE MONEY BY BUYING OUR STUFF!!"

No thanks. I'll save even more money by NOT buying your stuff.

[eberts]

Originally Posted by jln1966

A Wal Mart employee in New York got trampled and died on Black Friday. The door of the store got tore off the hinges. As emergency people tried to revive him people just stepped over him. When they closed the store the shoppers got angry and said they waiting since Thursday morning. They werent going to let anything like somebody dying come between them and getting that piece of crap 19" Sansui flat screen that weighs 2 pounds in the box. What has this world come to? Very sad.
John

People died while building the Hoover Dam (did they change the name of it again ?)
A worker ran to the aid of a fellow worker who died when he got ran over by a bulldozer.
The supervisor said "Get back to work or you will be fired, you can't help him now." That is reality.
People were a lot more desparate for jobs than they are now, so the world has not changed much.

[wa2ise]

Originally Posted by Carmine

http://www.nlcnet.org/campaigns/arch...port/RCA.shtml

25 years ago I used to work for the old RCA Smirnoff R&D Lab in Princetion NJ. Back then the markup of our TVs was about 400%. Price in a store was about 4x what it cost to make the damm thing and have it boxed and ready to ship at the shipping dock at the factory in Bloomington Indiana. That's when a 19 inch RCA TV with a comb filter cost me about $400 in 1982 (a CTC101). And I was happy to pay it, a good price at the time.

I suppose there will be a time in the far future when we run out of third world toilets to get stuff made at 25 cents an hour. There's most of Africa that hasn't been touched yet, Afghanistan, and such places too.

Hopefully sooner or later everyone will be at USA levels, and do it in a healthy biosphere. Didn't say that would be easy to make happen...

[classictv80s]

Originally Posted by kx250rider

Are we surprised? Up until last year, the buying public was using credit cards, which they'd run up to $25K or so every year, then refinance their houses for astronomically over-appraised values, pay off the credit cards, and do it again. This went on from 1995 until about 20 months ago. No more! And the wiser people who spent "earned" income have stopped spending that too. We're at the beginning of something that will eclipse the Great Depression. I hate to be negative, but the truth hurts. In this case, the American consumer has come down with a very serious, self-inflicted infection, and it will take a very painful series of shots with enormous needles, deep into the buttocks, over a long period of time, to cure it.

Charles

Charles, I have to commend you for saying this, because I've been warning people about the exact same thing for years. The truth hurts, but it needs to be told - we are in the early stages of the Second Great Depression. People are not going to be able to afford the LCD and plasma junk for long.

I've been trying throughout this year to collect as many CRT televisions as possible at the thrift stores. I may still pick up one or two more after the holidays are over.

[philcib]

Originally Posted by Carmine

But to lower myself to "shopping-on-command" like some kind of lab rat, in the name of CHRISTmas no less, absolutely sickens me. My human dignity is worth more to me than a good price on some slave-labor piece of shit. I wouldn't act that way for a danish-modern Zenith combo-roundie, let alone some disgusting pixel-displayer that will be rotting in a landfill relatively soon.

Amen. I bet the person who got trampled to death at one of the NYC area
Walmarts when the doors opened would have agreed.

[bgadow]

I, for one, equate Lowes & Home Depot to Wal*Mart. I will personally exhaust all other avenues before shopping at any of them. It tears me, because on one hand, I am a small businessman and applaud their success. On the other hand, I am a small businessman-and I know that if they were in direct competition with me I'd be in deep trouble.

I will admit this: there is a degree of excitement from being in a Wal*Mart (or wherever) on black Friday (or Christmas Eve). You don't have to be there to buy anything, just to observe. I don't know if its good or bad. Last Dec.24th I volunteered as a bell ringer for the Salvation Army and they put be in front of the Wal*Mart. It was a good experience. I did note that I saw more new TV sets roll out that door while I was there than most independent shops would sell in many, many months.

[Josef]

Hello!
This shows what happened at an electronic market opening in Germany last year. The language is german but everyone will see what's going on. Police was present from the beginnig at midnight until two in the morning
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0S_coLqPg
Greetings Josef