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WhiteSE · #16 09-20-2007, 09:11 AM

First season is available on DVD

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...=76995#details

bordeno · #17 09-20-2007, 09:13 AM

Just one of many fine shows on the History Channel. Modern Marvels is another great one. I never watch network TV other than sports.

WhiteSE · #18 09-20-2007, 09:24 AM

I am reading the boards on the History Channel and it seems that the Dogfights show is in serious trouble...I would suggest go here and try to write to the HC.

Amazing that the would show Ice Road Truckers and shelf the Dogfight show...amazing!

http://boards.historychannel.com/thr...=1189757925423

rickr15 · #19 09-20-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteSE

I am reading the boards on the History Channel and it seems that the Dogfights show is in serious trouble...I would suggest go here and try to write to the HC.

Amazing that the would show Ice Road Truckers and shelf the Dogfight show...amazing!

http://boards.historychannel.com/thr...=1189757925423

I am a fan of both shows. But I suspect the sucess of Ice Road Truckers has as much to do with the personalitys and interaction between the players as much as anything else going on. This seems to be where all the Thom Beers shows garner their sucess.

ARguy · #20 09-20-2007, 12:27 PM

Looks like I have my Christmas present all picked out! Thanks WhiteSE for the heads up!

WhiteSE · #21 09-20-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ARguy

Looks like I have my Christmas present all picked out! Thanks WhiteSE for the heads up!

good deal....I just ordered one for me as well...I will give it to my wife for her bday!...

NeedForSpeed · #22 09-20-2007, 03:12 PM

Just ordered mine, Thanks for the heads up. There rerunning the episode with american ace Steve Carpenter rescueing his 2 fellow pilots the NVAF had trapped in the "Pinwheel". They were in a sideways circle, And the Mig 21 had a huge turning advantage on there Phantoms. They would just turn tighter, Get behind, And blow'm away. Anyway this guy had just engaged and was on the way back when he saw it unfolding. He goes thru the wheel to break it up, At over 700knots. His jet wash forced 1 mig out, Breaking the wheel, freeing his buds. One mig took of, This guy gives chase at full afterburner, Catches the guy (No jet in Nam could outrun an F4 in level flight). He finds out later, It was the General of all N. Veitnam airforces! It's the best episode I've seen.

Toasted Almond · #23 09-20-2007, 05:01 PM

Under 5,000 feet, the only view an F-4 driver would get of a 105, would be the ass end.

"Post-strike, the Weasels (the last guys off the target and flying 105's) would pass us like we were standing still."
comment made by F-4 driver

There was nothing ever made that could keep up with a 105 below 5,000 feet.

WhiteSE · #24 09-20-2007, 05:06 PM

it must like dense air!

Toasted Almond · #25 09-20-2007, 05:12 PM

Loves it. Chews it up and spits it out the ass end.

Bigerik · #26 09-20-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasted Almond

Under 5,000 feet, the only view an F-4 driver would get of a 105, would be the ass end.

"Post-strike, the Weasels (the last guys off the target and flying 105's) would pass us like we were standing still."
comment made by F-4 driver

There was nothing ever made that could keep up with a 105 below 5,000 feet.

How bout the Panavia Tornado or the F111-F?

Toasted Almond · #27 09-20-2007, 08:02 PM

Nothing.

NeedForSpeed · #28 09-20-2007, 08:17 PM

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How bout the Panavia Tornado or the F111-F?

Both fast. I remember both during Desert Storm. Tornado's flew to target at under 150ft, Supersonic!. Brit pilots were trained to attack eastern Europe, Flying under soviet radar. F-111's were Bombers, Surpassed only by it's successors as far speed goes, The B1B. FYI, F-111's were going to be modded and used by the USN. They could'nt get them light enough for carrier ops. The congress then Ok'd the F-14 Program. If you saw them parked side by side, They are very similar.

Bigerik · #29 09-20-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasted Almond

Nothing.

That sounds pretty definitive to me!

Bigerik · #30 09-20-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedForSpeed

Both fast. I remember both during Desert Storm. Tornado's flew to target at under 150ft, Supersonic!. Brit pilots were trained to attack eastern Europe, Flying under soviet radar. F-111's were Bombers, Surpassed only by it's successors as far speed goes, The B1B. FYI, F-111's were going to be modded and used by the USN. They could'nt get them light enough for carrier ops. The congress then Ok'd the F-14 Program. If you saw them parked side by side, They are very similar.

The F111 was certainly the bastard child of US bombers.
By the time the F came out, it was about the most capable bomber in the world. An interesting statistic I came across showed that the F111 was by FAR the most successful bomber used in the Gulf War. The first one anyway.
So, of course the next course of action was obvious. They withdrew them from service.....