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Old 08-02-2007, 12:32 AM
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Funney story , but a few weeks back my neighbor threw away all the tvs in their house . A few 19 inch tvs and a 32 inch tv . I asked "why are you throwing all these tvs out , whats wrong with them . She replied , there was nothing wrong with them , her kids wanted flat screens throughout the house . So i took the the 32 inch zenith , basically just had to put new batteries in the remote . Just goes to show you how much waste there is in this country .

A lot of people today talk about raising the minimum wage so just MAYBE all people WILLING to work will be able to make ends meet. OK idea I guess. To me anyone who is willing to get up everyday and at least give life a try should be guaranteed to earn enough to make ends meet and have SOME means of preparation for health issues and retirement. That should be a MINIMUM standard incentive. As opposed to popping out babies and waiting on monthly government checks and using the medicaid system to hit up doctors for free prescriptions to sell for extra cash. Then on the other end of the spectrum you have Mom trashing a house full of color TV's because the KIDS wanted better ones!!! Coomme OONN!! There must be a ballance in this country, some how, some way. I have an answer!

I say for now don't raise the minimum wage. LOWER THE MAXIMUM WAGE!!!!!

As for those kids I would go out and purchase a house full of 13" Black and White sets and donate their awful 19" and larger color sets to the old folks home.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:15 AM
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As for those kids I would go out and purchase a house full of 13" Black and White sets and donate their awful 19" and larger color sets to the old folks home.
Just make sure they are tube type B&W sets with a weak CRT and, maybe, some sync issues. Oh yeah, take away their cable as well.

Our family TV until the mid '90's was a basic 19" color set and I could just see me telling my dad to throw it out because I wanted the latest technology.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:15 AM
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Well Tubejunke , you hit the nail right on the head . Unfortunatly we live in a time where everyone is dependent on computers, laptops, cellphones etc . Me myself , i do find the computer a useful tool in many aspects but i did live without it for many years . I actually did not have a computer till late 2000 . I didnt even have a cell phone till this year and i only bought one becuase i do a lot of driving pretty far too and there are not any more pay phones around .
But i will say this , these computers in a work place seem to complicate things more . What i mean by this is , it seems that before we had all this modern crap , things seemed to work smoother but now with these computers things seem more complicated . God forbid the computers go out at my job , everyone goes into a panic and its like the world has stopped , lol .
My personal motto is " less is best " . Growing up we didnt have all these fancy things and yet we were just fine and happy . Nowadays the kids need computers , cell phones , video games , etc , etc . Hell , i dont even have cable/tv . People are spoiled today and dont even know it .
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:45 PM
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Speaking of technological dependency , did anyone here watch the tv series "Jericho"? I wonder if a EMP bomb that could black out North America could really exist? Logan
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:26 PM
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People are spoiled today and dont even know it .
But it's all relative. Every generation thinks the ones following it are spoiled, after all, growing up you would have used convienences people in previous generations would have scoffed at.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:53 PM
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Its pretty obvious when comparing the past that just about everything in our lives is better technology wise but somehow life is still much worse from a quality standpoint. I can still remember years ago when you could actually call a business and get a real person at the other end of the phone. And that person could actually have a conversation with to you. That kind of quality has been removed from the workforce now and in its place we speak to robot voices and tape recordings. Only an idiot would prefer a phone system to a real person, yet somehow the business world has to operate this way now.

So when it comes to having newer technology in my home, I think I prefer the video technology today vs yesterday. But when it comes to seeing what technology has done to business and this country, I think I prefer the old days much better.
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:03 PM
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Man does this bring back memories...

I sure do miss the days of watching my father pull the TV away from the wall, grab a few tools and take the back off... then sit there with a mirror in front of the TV trying to get the picture just right while twisting all the cool little things inside..

And the best entertainment of all.. .Seeing him fly back about 3 feet against the wall because the screwdriver slipped out of the do-hickie and zapped him...

That was always so much funnier than anything that was ever on the screen!!! I guess kids today just don't have the same sense of humor...
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:14 PM
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JimJ, you got it right. Today's kids are eventually going to be ornery old coots who will whine about their lazy grandchildren. Those eventual grandparents will stubbornly stick to phones with keypads and maybe satellite or cable TV. They will complain that the youngsters do not even know how to use a phone by punching in a separate phone number that you have to remember or write down for each person you want to call, and the kids don't even know you used to have to recharge your phone every few days. They will describe how some phones even used to be connected to wires inside the walls of houses! This group will also describe going to stores to buy movies, books, and music in individual pieces as a normal, everyday practice. They will mention TV "networks" that made up advance lists of shows that would run live, nonstop at the same time all over the country, and the kids will think, "How silly was that? TV shows went by even without someone ordering them? You had to program a digital recorder in advance to save shows, or you could miss the show and have to wait for the network to decide to show it again?? What a ridiculous idea! And, some people didn't even have the recorders and they had to actually decide to be at home at exactly 8 PM every Thursday night to watch a show? That must have been like the Stone Age."
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:18 PM
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JimJ, you got it right. Today's kids are eventually going to be ornery old coots who will whine about their lazy grandchildren. Those eventual grandparents will stubbornly stick to phones with keypads and maybe satellite or cable TV. They will complain that the youngsters do not even know how to use a phone by punching in a separate phone number that you have to remember or write down for each person you want to call, and the kids don't even know you used to have to recharge your phone every few days. They will describe how some phones even used to be connected to wires inside the walls of houses! This group will also describe going to stores to buy movies, books, and music in individual pieces as a normal, everyday practice. They will mention TV "networks" that made up advance lists of shows that would run live, nonstop at the same time all over the country, and the kids will think, "How silly was that? TV shows went by even without someone ordering them? You had to program a digital recorder in advance to save shows, or you could miss the show and have to wait for the network to decide to show it again?? What a ridiculous idea! And, some people didn't even have the recorders and they had to actually decide to be at home at exactly 8 PM every Thursday night to watch a show? That must have been like the Stone Age."
I remember one day a kid came to school, and was telling us about this machine his father would put a tape in, and it would record a show on the TV so you could watch it later...

We all called him a liar.. everyone knows there's no such thing...
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:08 PM
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I remember one day a kid came to school, and was telling us about this machine his father would put a tape in, and it would record a show on the TV so you could watch it later...

We all called him a liar.. everyone knows there's no such thing...

that reminds me of a conversation i had with a friend in about march 1997 or so when DVDs were just coming around. He was reading a magazine article from popular electronics or something about the technology and whatnot. I said theyd never catch on "noone will want them cause you cant record on them, its gonna be like video discs and lazer discs, people already have everything on tape and wont switch formats.". he still reminds me to this day that i was wrong. I was right about his now useless minidisc player thow they failed both times sony tried to launch them.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:06 PM
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JimJ, you got it right. Today's kids are eventually going to be ornery old coots who will whine about their lazy grandchildren.
Back in the mid 60's my grammar school teachers absolutely hated television. Today they probably hate video games and internet surfing...
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:59 PM
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They'll soon realize there is zero tolerance for dropping that large plasma (or LCD) television.
Plasma tv's SUCK!!! Besides the VERY fragile PDP panel, and the extreme susceptibility to burn-in, and such...


Recently, I had to work on several of them. ALL of them had MAJOR problems!! ALL of them were less than THREE years old!! one of them had a bad PDP panel (and that means it is basically JUNK now), the other 3 ALL had bad sustain and buffer boards.(about $750 in parts avg. apiece.). There is NO SUCH THING as a "cheap repair" on a plasma tv.

I tried to warn AK about the unreliability of plasma (really FLUORESCENT) tv sets a couple of years ago, but no one took me seriously.
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:34 PM
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I for one must be an anachronism in a modern world. I have a cellular phone that's only a phone. I have a HUGE 26" RCA Colortrack 2000 Television (made in 1989), I haven't stepped up to component video and I'm still stuck with S-Video, still play Vinyl, OWN 2 VCR's, only 2 DVD players (one of them is a Playstation 2), still use Cassettes, and I have more movies on Laserdisc than I do on DVD.

And I must be the last person on Earth that doesn't believe in driving and yacking on a Cellular Phone.

I should be stuffed in a museum.
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Old 08-04-2007, 09:48 AM
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JimJ, you got it right. Today's kids are eventually going to be ornery old coots who will whine about their lazy grandchildren. Those eventual grandparents will stubbornly stick to phones with keypads and maybe satellite or cable TV.
And whatever form AK may take then...you can be assured...we'll be complaining, er, posting on it
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:20 PM
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Minidisc didn't actually fail. It is still in wide use in the pro/ concert touring world. You would be surprised how many bands (A acts included) use minidisc players on stage and only pretend to play their instruments. It just never had a real use in the home market.

I see people all the time buying calculators for the little tykes in school. The hand held electronic calculator hadn't even been invented when I was in grade school and amazingly we all still learned to do our math. The newest calculators can even graph the results. I had to use pencils and graph paper. I think kids got a much better education back then. I didn't need to know all about computers in school, but I did have to learn to read and comprehend what I had read. With that knowledge I could learn all about computers on my own.

I best not get started on the school system and modern teaching methods.

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