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Old 11-07-2025, 05:49 AM
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Very intringing. If the video output PSU cap are not the culprit as you already checked, I can assume that the bright only will change with:
Bad linearity, compressing the sweep in one direction, but then the image will be distorted;
Some cap for the video coupling or decoupling in the video processing circuits?
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Old 11-07-2025, 11:40 AM
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Very intringing. If the video output PSU cap are not the culprit as you already checked, I can assume that the bright only will change with:
Bad linearity, compressing the sweep in one direction, but then the image will be distorted;
Some cap for the video coupling or decoupling in the video processing circuits?
It could be. A failed component would be a good fix.

I'm mostly worried that the voltage multiplier is weak and it's not delivering even voltage across the sweep. Though I don't know if that wouldn't also effect the geometry? There doesn't appear to be any geometric distortion matching up with the brightness halo.
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Old 11-07-2025, 01:39 PM
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It could be. A failed component would be a good fix.

I'm mostly worried that the voltage multiplier is weak and it's not delivering even voltage across the sweep. Though I don't know if that wouldn't also effect the geometry? There doesn't appear to be any geometric distortion matching up with the brightness halo.
I cannot imagine that, the "tripler" furnishes the requested final voltage only at flyback pulses (last diode blocks from sweeping time), and CRT cap ("aquadag"+glass) holds it for a line time.

And is pretty rare to a CRT having a dim lateral zone (normally are the borders or, more rarely, in the center).
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Old 11-07-2025, 03:45 PM
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This one is a little different. Usually the neg of that cap goes to GND.
Look off the negative, it goes to the #1 130 V source. There is usually another cap to GND from the 150.. Probably on the PS part of the schematic.
HINT on most Sams there is chart showing how many points a source goes to
This is very handy at times when you are unloading things.
Anyhows the value of cap I have seen is 4.7 OR 10 MFD. I have seen a few
open coupling caps in the video chain on these sets.
To wrap it up can you post a pix of the symptom ?
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Old 11-08-2025, 10:36 AM
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This one is a little different. Usually the neg of that cap goes to GND.
Look off the negative, it goes to the #1 130 V source. There is usually another cap to GND from the 150.. Probably on the PS part of the schematic.
HINT on most Sams there is chart showing how many points a source goes to
This is very handy at times when you are unloading things.
Anyhows the value of cap I have seen is 4.7 OR 10 MFD. I have seen a few
open coupling caps in the video chain on these sets.
To wrap it up can you post a pix of the symptom ?
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Thanks for the guidance Zeno. I'll look into the PS. Here are two shots of the raster and one bit of the H yoke on the Pincushion section.

The PLUGE shot shows that the right side is brighter. You can see that the right side white bar is visible, but the left side is not. I took this shot because it's too hard to capture the edge glow on the right side with my phone camera. I tried everything I could to make it go away, but none of the geometry controls or puritycontrols change the brightness imbalance. Pivoting the yoke doesn't matter either. The purity is good in my opinion. I degaussed with a good ring as well.

The other shot shows another symptom; the geometry is messed up towards the top. It becomes noticeably wide on the top side of the image, and then pinches back in again at the very top. The pincushion control only does barrel correction, but this is keystone distortion. It also appears that the pivot point for the EW is too high up, or there is some linearity problem. I drew a Red line where it appears that the pivot point is. I mention this because it appears that the geometry control is directly coupled to the H Sweep if I read the circuit correctly. Seems like the H Yoke goes between the CONV OUTPUT transistor and the Pincushion pot, and then to the base of PINMOD transistor.

Also of note is that the Pincushion barrel correction seems to be towards the end of its travel; the picture is biased towards pucking in on the sides. The barrel correction seems to be pivoting symmetrical in the middle vertically though, unlike the keystone (which seems to be too high).

I took some voltages around the PINMOD transistor, and I see that the voltage on the base and emitter are too high. Almost 115VDC on the base and 114V on the Emitter. Should be 110 and 109. The AC waveform on the base is more or less correct at about 10.6V pkpk.






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Old 11-08-2025, 11:35 AM
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Look off the negative, it goes to the #1 130 V source. There is usually another cap to GND from the 150.. Probably on the PS part of the schematic.
I'm assuming you mean C522? It's been replaced. I replaced all the lytics. Almost every single one was way out or very high ESR or both.

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C521 common on old Sonys. Same hourglass symptom. C-1 is in // with it
but not on all. Probably hung on the etch side of the PCB.
C522 is the "other" cap for shading, jail bars etc.
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Old 11-08-2025, 02:40 PM
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C521 common on old Sonys. Same hourglass symptom. C-1 is in // with it
but not on all. Probably hung on the etch side of the PCB.
C522 is the "other" cap for shading, jail bars etc.
Good Luck
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So, I think I figured it out. Q511 seems to be pulling down the 130V on the other side of the flyback winding. I measured the flyback and the windings are spot-on, so I think it's okay.

Going to pull Q511 and see what the fuzz is.

Ok. No. this didn't really change anything for whatever reason.

The transistor was ok, but there was a ceramic disc cap that had gone high ESR across a diode on the other side of the collector. Replacing the disc cap brought back my 130V at the collector, but it didn't seem to make much difference.

Also of note is that the VSIZE and HSIZE pots are close to the end of their travel.

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