Monkey Wards Model 62-465 Dial Stringing Diagram Needed

[old_coot88]

Lantern battery will never cut it. All the tube heaters plus the vibrator B+ supply will look like almost a dead short to a lantern batt.

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by old_coot88

Lantern battery will never cut it. All the tube heaters plus the vibrator B+ supply will look like almost a dead short to a lantern batt.

Ok, I wondered about that, but wasn't sure.

[jr_tech]

Originally Posted by old_coot88

Lantern battery will never cut it. All the tube heaters plus the vibrator B+ supply will look like almost a dead short to a lantern batt.

What am I missing here? the radio has a 4 amp fuse and a 908 lantern battery is rated at 13 amp hours.

https://www.grainger.com/product/DURACELL-908-5LE26

jr

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

What am I missing here? the radio has a 4 amp fuse and a 908 lantern battery is rated at 13 amp hours.

https://www.grainger.com/product/DURACELL-908-5LE26

jr

I dont know, but I know it wasn't working for me, the fuse is fine, and I wasn't getting anything out of the set, not even a buzz from the vibrator. I had forgotten to mention I was working on this radio for someone and I just got off the phone with him and he said he wasn't interested in pursuing repairing the unit any further after I told him it wouldn't work on anything less than a 6V car battery.

[mr_rye89]

I have a 6V golf cart battery for running my '36 Philco, it was a return or something like that so I only gave $55 for it I think. I think they are cheaper than 6V starting batteries and better suited for the job.

EDIT: I had to open the vibrator and clean something in it before it would run on that Philco, which also has a synchronous vibrator. seems like I also had to replace the capacitors around it too but I don't remember....

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by mr_rye89

I have a 6V golf cart battery for running my '36 Philco, it was a return or something like that so I only gave $55 for it I think. I think they are cheaper than 6V starting batteries and better suited for the job.

EDIT: I had to open the vibrator and clean something in it before it would run on that Philco, which also has a synchronous vibrator. seems like I also had to replace the capacitors around it too but I don't remember....

This unit uses a 6 pin positive ground vibrator. Which I can't even get it out of its socket to check it.

As for golf cart batteries go, I saw those over at batteries plus and thought about getting one of those, but the cheapest one they had was $150...

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by vortalexfan

This unit uses a 6 pin positive ground vibrator. Which I can't even get it out of its socket to check it.

As for golf cart batteries go, I saw those over at batteries plus and thought about getting one of those, but the cheapest one they had was $150...

I have to be really desperate to go to Batteries Plus. They're nuts with their prices.

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I have to be really desperate to go to Batteries Plus. They're nuts with their prices.

Where else am I going to find a 6 volt golf cart battery? I dont think auto zone or advanced auto or Napa is going to have those.

EDIT: They do have them but they are the same price $129 for a 6V golf cart battery.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by vortalexfan

I dont know, but I know it wasn't working for me, the fuse is fine, and I wasn't getting anything out of the set, not even a buzz from the vibrator. I had forgotten to mention I was working on this radio for someone and I just got off the phone with him and he said he wasn't interested in pursuing repairing the unit any further after I told him it wouldn't work on anything less than a 6V car battery.

Offer him a few bucks for the radio. It seems like an interesting set. He's probably interested flipping it.

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

Offer him a few bucks for the radio. It seems like an interesting set. He's probably interested flipping it.

You're right he is interested in flipping it. I'll ask him if he'd let me have it or even just buy it off of him.

He has the grille cloth for it as well.

[old_coot88]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

What am I missing here? the radio has a 4 amp fuse and a 908 lantern battery is rated at 13 amp hours.

https://www.grainger.com/product/DURACELL-908-5LE26

jr

Point taken. Looks like the alkalines have come a long way since the old zinc/carbon types. A fresh new one oughta at least evoke some sign of life out of the radio.

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by old_coot88

Point taken. Looks like the alkalines have come a long way since the old zinc/carbon types. A fresh new one oughta at least evoke some sign of life out of the radio.

Hmm, maybe that's my problem, the lantern battery I have is an Eveready Carbon-Zinc composition 6V lantern battery, and not a Duracell Alkaline 6V Lantern Battery...

[jr_tech]

Does the battery voltage drop considerably when you connect the radio?

jr

[vortalexfan]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

Does the battery voltage drop considerably when you connect the radio?

jr

It doesn't power up at all, no dial light, no tube glow, no sound from the vibrator, nothing.

If what you posted earlier about the Duracell 6V lantern batteries being rated for 13 Ah, then couldn't I just get 4 of those Duracell 6V Lantern Batteries, parallel them together and get 52 Ah of power to juice up this radio?

[old_coot88]

What is the no-load voltage of the battery? Now, with the voltmeter still connected to the battery, connect it to the radio and turn the radio on. Does the voltage drop or stay the same?