Britains oldest TV!

[TV-collector]

The Telefunken sets are older, all electronics.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/telefunken_fe_iii.html
http://www.earlytelevision.org/telefunken.html
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...nfl0gjmfbbP9M:
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...5S62oHxgDqlhM:
Or read this:
http://heureka-stories.de/Erfindunge...nze-Geschichte
On the second page are errors, pictues with wrong discription :
-Argus Capitol
-Philips ATX

TV-collector

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by TV-collector

The Telefunken sets are older, all electronics.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/telefunken_fe_iii.html
http://www.earlytelevision.org/telefunken.html
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...nfl0gjmfbbP9M:
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...5S62oHxgDqlhM:
Or read this:
http://heureka-stories.de/Erfindunge...nze-Geschichte
On the second page are errors, pictues with wrong discription :
-Argus Capitol
-Philips ATX

Or this receiver that is older than them all:
http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_1932.html

The year on the caption is in error. These sets were designed in 1930 and completed in July 1931.

[decojoe67]

I think what's more important is the first production television set. There where many CRT television prototypes done in the early part of '30's. I have a picture in one of my books of Vladimir Zworykin standing next to an RCA credenza style mirror-in-the-lid CRT television set from 1929! It likely was nothing more than an interesting looking piece of furniture at that time, although the man was getting there quickly!

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by decojoe67

I think what's more important is the first production television set. There where many CRT television prototypes done in the early part of '30's. I have a picture in one of my books of Vladimir Zworykin standing next to an RCA credenza style mirror-in-the-lid CRT television set from 1929! It likely was nothing more than an interesting looking piece of furniture at that time, although the man was getting there quickly!

While the 1931 RCA receiver was not a set the public could buy, it was internally called the "Pre-Commercial Television Receiver" and was done to evaluate the quality, operation and cost of ownership of a fully electronic picture/sound receiver. This was not some lab prototype or test mule but was a fully packaged, fully functioning television receiver we would recognize today that was placed into the homes of RCA engineers/officers. All costs of manufacturing, ease of use and technical aspects were recorded to evaluate the feasibility of full production. I know of no other full television receiver of this era that was readied for production, let alone one that made it out of the lab. While it turned out to be a wise move to wait for the release of commercial television, there is no reason these units, as is, could not have been sold to the public.

Von Ardenne's test of 1930 were of a closed circuit film scanner and monitor which was not a full transmitter/receiver and not new for the time. Others had done these test back to at least 1929. Your picture of Zworykin and his 1929 picture receiver in the Radial 47 cabinet shows the state of the art. That 1929 picture receiver was operated and described in the December 1929 issue of Radio Engineering so it was more than just a piece of furniture.

[decojoe67]

Originally Posted by tubesrule

..... Your picture of Zworykin and his 1929 picture receiver in the Radial 48 cabinet shows the state of the art. That 1929 picture receiver was operated and described in the December 1929 issue of Radio Engineering so it was more than just a piece of furniture.

Interesting! Thanks for the info. It would've been so great if that 1929 proto. would've survived. What a beautiful TV it was. Someone very skilled could actually recreate one if they could find a nice 1929 Radiola 47!

[peter scott]

The development of receivers was interesting but the real initiator of viable television was the electronic camera incorporating charge storage and for that we have to wait for Zworykin along with Ballard's interlacing in 1934.

See: http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk/Emitron.htm

Peter

[tubesrule]

True Peter. Without that piece of the puzzle television would have to wait.

Darryl