Tunerless VCR-DVD recorders

[centralradio]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

I think they are trying to eliminate 'uncontrolled' time shifting through devices that are not computer connected to the cable/sat providers (and have fees associated with them that content providers can ask for a piece of)...
They probably only still sell those for video camera owners so they can put their tapes on DVD....

Hollywood has been trying to kill consumer video recording equipment since it's infancy...What is to say they have not found a route to that in our digital world.
Of course computers are a decent loophole, but it's getting harder to illegally distribute material, and sooner or later there will probably be crap to stop that too.

Analog video has already been killed in new consumer goods at Hollywood's behest...what is logically their next move?.

Yes leave it to the CORRUPT industry when they dictate to manufactures what to produce.

Cable companies want you to use their DVRs.

Yes the Betamax case .I remember that.Now they are fighting mad with the internet.


Lastly blame the stupid general public which gets brainwashed with the media and the government on saying analog is crap and go digital.

[ChrisW6ATV]

Originally Posted by centralradio

Yes leave it to the CORRUPT industry when they dictate to manufactures what to produce.

Cable companies want you to use their DVRs.

In a perfect world (at least regarding TV recording), they would make combo machines with a digital tuner, hard disk drive (for DVR function), and a Blu-ray recorder, so we could make discs of HD shows, just as we used to record video tapes in the old days.

Really, though, remembering how many people had 12:00 flashing on their VCRs, maybe the market for such over-the-air Blu-ray recorders would be pretty small. They do sell such machines in Japan, I think, but of course there are plenty of high-tech gadgets there that we do not get in the USA.

[centralradio]

Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV

In a perfect world (at least regarding TV recording), they would make combo machines with a digital tuner, hard disk drive (for DVR function), and a Blu-ray recorder, so we could make discs of HD shows, just as we used to record video tapes in the old days.

Really, though, remembering how many people had 12:00 flashing on their VCRs, maybe the market for such over-the-air Blu-ray recorders would be pretty small. They do sell such machines in Japan, I think, but of course there are plenty of high-tech gadgets there that we do not get in the USA.

They wont make it here in the US.The movie industry will start another Betamax case type fight over it.I would not mind getting one of those DVR units that the content can be moved onto my computer or burn it to DVD.
Then I will kiss VHS goodbye.

Yea I do remember the flashing 12:00.The idiot owners were to lazy and dumb to set the clocks.The later models had the clock auto-set on them.

[ChrisW6ATV]

Originally Posted by centralradio

The movie industry will start another Betamax case type fight over it.

Yes, and ironically Sony, who won the original case against Universal, would be at the front of the pack now-on the content-providers' side.

The later models had the clock auto-set on them.

The last VCR I ever bought (for my mother in 2004 as a gift replacement for her failed one) figured out it was connected to an antenna, scanned and stored all of the channels, and found the one with the clock signal and set its clock. All of this happened just by plugging in the machine-I did not even have to hit the power button if I remember right.

[Jeffhs]

I had two VCRs, a Magnavox and my current Panasonic, that had the automatic clock set function. The Magnavox had the automatic setup feature, which worked as soon as the unit was plugged in; of course, this was in the NTSC analog TV era. Now, with digital, the automatic clock set on my Panasonic VCR does not work, even with the machine's tuner set to a local PBS channel. The automatic channel search, however, works perfectly with the cable in my area (Time Warner).