Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-02-2012, 06:15 PM
Komet's Avatar
Komet Komet is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Varese (Italy)
Posts: 199
CGE 4461 restoration

I found this rare set from an old repairman who has retired this year. It's the only case of a TV with bakelite cabinet built in Italy, branded CGE (Compagnia Generale di Elettricità).

CGE was founded in 1921 in Milan and originally was the italian division of GE. This set was built in 1961, I have repainted the gold part on the front and replaced some paper capacitors on the vertical oscillator and syncronism separator. It used 18 tubes and a selenium rectifier.

The rear cover is also in bakelite!

Marco
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_1886.jpg (57.7 KB, 38 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1885.jpg (81.9 KB, 47 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1888.jpg (95.6 KB, 48 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1887.jpg (58.8 KB, 54 views)
__________________
Facebook profile

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-02-2012, 07:11 PM
David Roper's Avatar
David Roper David Roper is offline
console lover
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,986
From the look of that cabinet (and especially the knobs!!) they either somehow maintained their ties to GE or had reestablished them by the time this model was made.
__________________
tvontheporch.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-02-2012, 07:14 PM
Eric H's Avatar
Eric H Eric H is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: So. Calif
Posts: 11,565
Wow, that is a cool looking set.
It does look very similar to it's American cousin on the outside, the chassis however looks totally different.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-02-2012, 08:53 PM
Electronic M's Avatar
Electronic M Electronic M is offline
M is for Memory
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pewaukee/Delafield Wi
Posts: 15,452
Cool!
__________________
Tom C.

Zenith: The quality stays in EVEN after the name falls off!
What I want. --> http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...62&postcount=4
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-02-2012, 10:09 PM
Kevin Kuehn's Avatar
Kevin Kuehn Kevin Kuehn is offline
Workin' Late Again
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WI
Posts: 3,976
Love the cabinet. White(or gray?), gold, and brown bakelite look great together.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 08-03-2012, 12:47 AM
Captain Video's Avatar
Captain Video Captain Video is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Brazil.
Posts: 1,014
That's a beautiful TV!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-03-2012, 09:54 AM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
Wow, that is a cool looking set.
It does look very similar to it's American cousin on the outside, the chassis however looks totally different.
Looks too well built to be a GE product.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-03-2012, 10:11 AM
holmesuser01's Avatar
holmesuser01 holmesuser01 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 1,731
It's fun seeing sets from Europe and Italy that look very similar to their American cousins, and yet, are totally different.

This little GE looks like so many early 1960's GE's from America. Most of them are dead and gone, now. I grew up with a 1963 GE 19" that was purchased the day that President Kennedy was shot, because my mom was stuck in bed due to hurting her back in a fall, and she wanted to watch everything that was on the news about this.

That GE broke down yearly, and usually it was the 23Z9 vertical output tube. Amazing what one can remember all these years later... I finally "GOT SMART" and bought 2 23Z9's when the vertical failed again, then, lightning got the set and the tuner exploded, literally, there in the set. Somewhere in this disaster I call home, I still have the spare 23Z9. NOS GE Compactron.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM
Eric H's Avatar
Eric H Eric H is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: So. Calif
Posts: 11,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseljeep View Post
Looks too well built to be a GE product.
That was exactly what I was thinking!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-03-2012, 05:50 PM
Kiwick's Avatar
Kiwick Kiwick is offline
slave to 3 equines
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 448
i have this same exact set, mine works great but needed a hack repair as one of the low voltage secondary windings on the flyback got open circuit when it warmed up, so i had to modify the circuit to do two jobs with just one winding.

the speaker and i think also the chassis were the same found in some Italian made Telefunken sets.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #11  
Old 08-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Sandy G's Avatar
Sandy G Sandy G is offline
Spiteful Old Cuss
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Rogersville, Tennessee
Posts: 9,571
Me Likey !! Be mindful of that nasty ol' Selenium Rectifier, though...They let go, & make a BIG Helluva Mess, & STINK of rotten eggs to High Heaven ! (grin)
__________________
Benevolent Despot
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-03-2012, 07:42 PM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
That selenium rectifier has 18 plates. Is it good for 360 volts, half wave, or 180 volts, full wave. For full wave, it would have a center tap. It would great to see a schematic, on that set.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-04-2012, 01:24 AM
zenithfan1's Avatar
zenithfan1 zenithfan1 is offline
Mark
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin
Posts: 4,211
Great job man! I agree, it looks like a GE but way to well made inside to be one LOL! Can we see some cute anime girls on this one too??
__________________
My TV page and YouTube channel
Kyocera R-661, Yamaha RX-V2200
National Panasonic SA-5800
Sansui 1000a, 1000, SAX-200, 5050, 9090DB, 881, SR-636, SC-3000, AT-20
Pioneer SX-939, ER-420, SM-B201
Motorola SK77W-2Z tube console
McIntosh MC2205, C26
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-04-2012, 02:07 AM
David Roper's Avatar
David Roper David Roper is offline
console lover
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,986
I get tired of GE bashing. My own experience growing up around their 50s vintage sets that belonged to family and friends is that they were very reliable and were kept in service as second sets into their second decade. All such sets whose whereabouts I still knew in the 1980s were still working at that time. So there.
__________________
tvontheporch.com
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-04-2012, 05:38 AM
snelson903 snelson903 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: mishawaka indiana
Posts: 1,499
that's good looking set ,i was noticing that selenium rec .too what is your reg house hold outlet voltage in Italy ,i had a complete made from germany in the 50's stereo console ,a freind of mine got while he was stationed in germany during the 60's ,it had adjustble input transformer made in it ,so it could be used all over the eurip. i still have the chassie and trans ,he insisted on making the console into a liquier cabinet . i even still have the little light bulb's from inside the cabinet that are frosted white there voltage are 220-250 volt i think, they have a diff. size base screw type.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:27 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.