Well, RTV is gone for good in my area - Videokarma.org TV - Video

radiotvnut · #1 11-09-2010, 02:31 PM

I actually saw the writing on the wall only a few months after RTV was launced in my area. In my area RTV and FOX share the same subchannel, with FOX programming taking first priority. That was the first mistake by not giving RTV it's own subchannel so that all RTV programming could be seen. The second mistake happened when they started chopping off RTV programming in favor of the same stupid s**t that's on every other channel. The other day, I tuned in to RTV, only to be greeted by some stupid "Judge so-and-so" program. Looking at the programming schedule for the TV station, I noticed that most of the day is filled with "judge this" and "judge that". Of course, they didn't cancel "AFV", "Dr. Phil", or "deal or no deal" that took the place of the 4-7 PM RTV slot months ago. Today, I was working on a TV and the more I saw of what was on the former RTV slot, the more irritated I became. So, I fired off the following message to the CEO and to the station program director.

"When you launched RTV on channel 30.1 in, I believe, early 2009; I was very excited to finally be able to see decent TV programming on a local TV station. I recently noticed, however, that all RTV programming had been removed and replaced by the same type of "Judge This", "Judge That", and other "sludge" programming that can be seen on any other TV station in the area. Regretfully, you have lost a viewer over your recent decision to drop RTV and I'm sure there are many more people in the area who feel the same way over this matter."

If I get a reply at all, it will probably be the standard "we're sorry you feel that way; but, it was a business decision" line. It has really gotten to the point where pre-recorded DVD's and tapes are the only way to see the older shows.

BTW, our local line-up consist up: (ABC, MyNetworkTV, CW), (PBS-SD, PBS-HD, and the create channel), (CBS and some weather channel), (FOX and NBC). So, not much to pick from as far as OTA. Cable isn't much better.

jr_tech · #2 11-09-2010, 04:24 PM

Sort of a long shot, but any chance of getting RTV on ch 12.3 (WJTV) out of Jackson ?

jr

mwplefty · #3 11-09-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiotvnut

I actually saw the writing on the wall only a few months after RTV was launced in my area. In my area RTV and FOX share the same subchannel, with FOX programming taking first priority. That was the first mistake by not giving RTV it's own subchannel so that all RTV programming could be seen. The second mistake happened when they started chopping off RTV programming in favor of the same stupid s**t that's on every other channel. The other day, I tuned in to RTV, only to be greeted by some stupid "Judge so-and-so" program. Looking at the programming schedule for the TV station, I noticed that most of the day is filled with "judge this" and "judge that". Of course, they didn't cancel "AFV", "Dr. Phil", or "deal or no deal" that took the place of the 4-7 PM RTV slot months ago. Today, I was working on a TV and the more I saw of what was on the former RTV slot, the more irritated I became. So, I fired off the following message to the CEO and to the station program director.

"When you launched RTV on channel 30.1 in, I believe, early 2009; I was very excited to finally be able to see decent TV programming on a local TV station. I recently noticed, however, that all RTV programming had been removed and replaced by the same type of "Judge This", "Judge That", and other "sludge" programming that can be seen on any other TV station in the area. Regretfully, you have lost a viewer over your recent decision to drop RTV and I'm sure there are many more people in the area who feel the same way over this matter."

If I get a reply at all, it will probably be the standard "we're sorry you feel that way; but, it was a business decision" line. It has really gotten to the point where pre-recorded DVD's and tapes are the only way to see the older shows.

BTW, our local line-up consist up: (ABC, MyNetworkTV, CW), (PBS-SD, PBS-HD, and the create channel), (CBS and some weather channel), (FOX and NBC). So, not much to pick from as far as OTA. Cable isn't much better.

Even with RTV (in Chicago it's called Me-TV or Me-Too depending on whether it's comedy or drama), they've been filling a lot of the 30-minute time slots with newer programs including "3rd Rock from the Sun" (a show from the late-1990's), "The Bernie Mac Show," "Frasier," and "The Nanny." Now don't get me wrong, I like "The Nanny" just as much as the next person, but it's already being shown in one-hour intervals on both TV Land and Nick-At-Nite (both are cables channels now exclusively offered in digital with Comcast). Those other shows are also being shown on other channels (some local and others on cable). These four shows consume about two hours everyday on Me-TV that could be used to bring back some of the great programs they had to remove from the lineup such as Laverne and Shirley and The Brady Bunch. I don't mind if they show back-to-back episodes of Sanford and Son or Good Times since they are classic TV programs that belong on Me-TV, unlike some of the 1990's programs that only serve to chew up time slots. Oh, and don't even get me started on the three hours of back-to-back commercials late at night that supposedly help pay for the station.

Hey, at least I still have Me-Too as a low-power station here in the suburbs.

radiotvnut · #4 11-09-2010, 04:41 PM

In all the years of messing with TV's, I've never been able to receive WJTV (analog or digital). My late Uncle lived about 35 miles closer to Jackson; and, he could receive WJTV with an outside antenna (early '90's). Although, it was sometimes snowy. I think WHLT out of Hattiesburg also carries RTV. Pre digital, I could receive a snowy picture (usually at night) on WHLT by using a bow tie antenna. Since digital, I've only been able to receive WHLT only once and it was only for a few minutes. That was when I had an indoor TV antenna stuck up in an oak tree by the shop. Maybe if I had a "real" outdoor antenna, I'd have better luck. If I thought a good outdoor antenna would bring in RTV from somewhere, I'd spring for it. Then, the station would probably drop RTV a week after I put up the antenna.

radiotvnut · #5 11-09-2010, 04:46 PM

And, while I'm moaning about the loss of RTV, let me take this opportunity to moan about TV Land. Years ago, TV land aired nothing but older programs and in fact, they were probably better than RTV. Then, they yanked much of the old programming from TV land and replaced it with modern crap. As far as old shows, I think TV land only shows Sanford and Son, All in the family, Andy Griffith, Bill Cosby, Gunsmoke, and Bonanza. That's a far cry from what they used to be. I did recently discover that CMT is showing "Dukes of Hazzard" again. So, at least the cable is good for something (for now).

vinljnkie · #6 11-09-2010, 07:45 PM

I'm lucky to have RTV here in New England on it's own station, not a sub channel of another station. It's on WMFP 62 Lawrence/Boston which used to run a combination of infomercials and home shopping. We basically get all RTV all the time

jr_tech · #7 11-09-2010, 08:21 PM

FTA satellite? see post 15 on this thread...Lots of old dishes around likely free, the digital receivers are pretty cheap.
http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=248543
jr

Robert Grant · #8 11-09-2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwplefty

Even with RTV (in Chicago it's called Me-TV or Me-Too depending on whether it's comedy or drama),
<snip>
Hey, at least I still have Me-Too as a low-power station here in the suburbs.

Me TV and Me Too are not RTV, they are competitors to RTV and have different shows.

RTV was founded by the now-defunct Equity Broadcasting and is now part of Luken Communications.

Me TV, Me Too, U Too (planned) and (part of) This TV are Weigel Broadcasting, owner of WCIU and several other stations.

KentTeffeteller · #9 11-10-2010, 09:40 AM

RTV feeds are available on Free To Air satellite TV. And a few affiliates for RTV have FTA feeds too.

andy · #10 11-10-2010, 09:53 AM

---

radiotvnut · #11 11-10-2010, 10:45 AM

Commercials! I was watching "dukes of hazzard" on CMT and there were 17 minutes worth of commercials in an hour. I too have noticed how they trim portions out of old re-runs in order to make room for more commercials. And, the situation is likely not going to get any better.

*zenithfan1* · #12 11-10-2010, 10:59 AM

Yep, there's plenty of scenes deleted from "All In The Family" for an example. I've seen them so many times I remember everything they take out. I was waiting for a really funny part that I wanted my wife to see and no, it wasn't there, it cut to commercial right where it should have been. It was at the end of the "computer screw-up" episode where the system thought Archie was dead and Edith kept getting all those quarters.

andy · #13 11-10-2010, 03:44 PM

---

radiotvnut · #14 11-10-2010, 08:07 PM

Well, I got a reply from the station owner.

"We are sorry to lose you as a viewer. I completely understand your discontent and personally share your views. Unfortunately, RTV just never got the ratings and the response we thought it would. Despite our aggressive efforts to promote RTV, the viewers did not respond in a manner adequate to enable us to keep the programming. The new shows that replace RTV are already getting better and more positive feedback. As a business owner, I must make decisions that enable my business to be profitable. The decision to replace RTV was a difficult, but good business choice, but I do miss those great shows that were my favorites as a kid.

Thank for your letter and your comments are duly noted."

Like I've said before; it just shows how much society has gone downhill if they are so on fire for the brand of crap that's on now.

mwplefty · #15 11-10-2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiotvnut

Well, I got a reply from the station owner.

"We are sorry to lose you as a viewer. I completely understand your discontent and personally share your views. Unfortunately, RTV just never got the ratings and the response we thought it would. Despite our aggressive efforts to promote RTV, the viewers did not respond in a manner adequate to enable us to keep the programming. The new shows that replace RTV are already getting better and more positive feedback. As a business owner, I must make decisions that enable my business to be profitable. The decision to replace RTV was a difficult, but good business choice, but I do miss those great shows that were my favorites as a kid.

Thank for your letter and your comments are duly noted."

Like I've said before; it just shows how much society has gone downhill if they are so on fire for the brand of crap that's on now.

Well, at least he replied to your message. Some of these station owners can be jerks and too lazy to write back. It's nice to see you got a response and that he somehow "understands" your concerns (to an extent).