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10-11-2009, 12:00 PM
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Maybe, Even If he bought that TV in the 70's and he was in his 60's then he will be about ready for his last ride in your cool hearse, if he is that old. I need a car like that to pick up my tv's in I have a black 64 cadillac 2dr. cp. with a big trunk I get a lot of my sets with but a hearse would be the ultimate, I could get a lot of good use out of a car like that. Cool car
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10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
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Doesnt look like its in that great of an environment. Sitting on a pallet with paint cans under the speakers. Stone foundation basement=moisture, water problems etc. The base is completely discolored and the top looks like hell. Another one of those sellers who thinks he has gold and wants way too much yet its working condition cannot be proved other than "it worked last time I used it". Now for $1000, I don't think it would be asking too much if the seller could atleast PLUG IT IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
Now that I think about it, next time I sell something on ebay that I know has problems, I can say "It worked last time I used it". This would be a true statement for anything that is now defective. Thats like saying it worked when it was new.
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10-11-2009, 12:32 PM
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Probably around '73-'74 and likely uses the flat SS chassis. Interesting set; but, a grand?
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10-11-2009, 01:14 PM
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Someone should save that TV as it is an SC600X remote set. I don't know if these sets will work with universal remotes or not, but if so, the remote can be replaced easily.
I would replace the missing speaker, however, with an exact replacement since this TV has a solid-state audio output stage (and SS everything else, for that matter). Solid-state audio stages are very fussy about speaker impedances, especially lower ones than the speaker originally in the set; a higher impedance speaker will work but you will have lower volume, whereas a lower impedance could and likely will damage the audio output stage in no time flat. Some sets, like my RCA XL-100 CTC185, will suffer incredible damage if the speaker terminals are shorted; I read somewhere, don't remember if it was here or somewhere else online, that the chassis of these sets will be permanently damaged if the speaker terminals short to each other or to ground. I think the reason this can happen is because the CTC1xx series has a hot chassis, not unlike the old series-string transformerless TVs used to be. BTW, someone mentioned the Zenith "Avanti" series of TVs recently, either in this thread or one similar to it. The Avanti came out in 1972 and, while it had a white cabinet, rosewood top and was on a white pedestal base, it had standard tuners for channels 2-13 and 14-83. The set described in this thread is obviously a much later version; needless to say, it will not work with today's digital TV signals without a converter box or a cable/satellite connection. I'm surprised people still collect old TVs with analog tuners, given the fact that these sets just won't work on the new ATSC standard without a box, cable or satellite. Not all areas have analog low-power (LP) stations or translators (the only translator I would see in my area would be channel 51, rebroadcasting the Cleveland PBS station), so unless you use an external video source such as a DVD player or VCR (yes, there are still a lot of VCRs still in use, if only for playing old tapes; I have a Panasonic PV-4022 and use it regularly) you will not see anything on your old sets. I wonder how Doug (drh4683) in Chicago manages to get signals to all his vintage analog NTSC TVs. I hardly believe he has 75 cable outlets in his house, although I guess that's possible, considering that many cable operators (such as Time-Warner) do not charge extra for additional outlets. If he is using antennas to receive ATSC signals, again I hardly believe he has 70-plus converter boxes on all his sets. I think he must use a VCR or DVD player on these old sets, although, again, I wonder how he manages to split the signal from one RF modulator 70 ways. The sets at the head of the line would get decent pictures, I'm sure, but the ones near or at the very end of the line, furthest from the distribution amplifier(s) if one or more are used, would get the worst reception. This was a real problem for CATV systems in the '60s and seventies, when these systems were relatively new. I hate to think of the problems and all they must have had with the first CATV system near Philadelphia in the late 1940s.
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10-11-2009, 02:36 PM
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I remember that thing the worst sounding combo Zenith made. It's from about 1973.When they say it's untested it means it does not work. You can bet they plugged it in to try it.
Not worth even close to starting bid. There are many reasons why I collect old televisions and I don’t care if they can’t receive broadcast signals directly from over the air any longer.
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10-11-2009, 03:28 PM
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I have the same analog cable service that's been at this house, for the most part, as long as there's been cable service (30+ years) in my area; so, my analog sets work just as they always have. For the sets not connected to cable, I use a DTV converter and am perfectly happy. Most of the people that I sell TV's to have analog cable or satellite; so, it does not matter that they don't have an ATSC tuner built in. And, I will continue to use my old analog sets for as long as I can keep them going.
As far as the "untested" or "it worked when last used" line on ebay; that's a guarantee that it does not work. I really get a laugh when some sellers say "unable to test due to the lack of proper resources". I usually think to myself "what, you don't have access to an AC outlet to plug your item in".
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10-11-2009, 03:41 PM
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Yeah, even here in the sticks of NE Tennessee we have "Lights", as the old-timers called electricity....I wouldn't give him 10 bux for that POS, much less a kilobuck...-An' its from the SEVENTIES, you toad, not the Sixties....Honestly, the nerve of some of these sellers on Fleabay is only exceeded by their ignorance...Or is it the other way around ?
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10-11-2009, 07:28 PM
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Price =
 Set = Quote:
But you know what happens when you assume...
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10-11-2009, 09:48 PM
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What are people thinking with these prices?!? Heres another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
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10-11-2009, 11:19 PM
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Way overpriced!
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Basically, you can use a low power transmitter. I'm broadcasting on 3 channels. 2 => DVD player, 3 => ATSC tuner box, 5 => cable.
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10-12-2009, 11:38 AM
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That's very rare to see with the original satellite speakers! I've seen 4 or 5 of the Avanti combo sets, but never with the speakers. It's a 25DC56 chassis, which is 1972 (to early '73). Kind of a neat set; you push a hidden button and the stereo pops up out of the top of the cabinet. But as pointed out, he needs to delete the extra "9" from the price.
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10-12-2009, 07:04 PM
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Not defending the insane price, but I must say that the talk on this thread (and the Detroit-area CCII Avanti) must sound an awful lot like what radio collectors said about TV sets in the 80s, and B&W collectors said about color sets in the 90s.
It's very easy for me to draw a line in the sand regarding what is "worth" collecting... Basically when TVs shifted from something unique, to a disposable commodity. That puts it as late as perhaps 1990 for some of the high-end Zenith and RCA sets (deluxe stereo/monitors/cabinet features). It's very doubtful that you will ever again see that much effort (in the case of this '73 Avanti set) put into a television, especially effort made to make it look cool even when turned "off". That is what makes it worth saving from the dumpster. You can build an entire room around a set like this...  It's a shame I don't have the photos of the rest of this friends recently remodeled room, complete with white shag carpet, white walls and orange furniture. It looks like the freakin' captains quarters on Star Trek! You think anybody puts that kind of effort into the soul-less silver/black boxes crapped out in the millions by Asian slave-labor? It's the identical piece of junk whether it's sold in Miami, Tokyo, London or Sydney. You aren't going to be ooohing and ahh'ing at a unique German Telefunken, 30-years from now, because you'll have the identical turd in your basement recycle pile. The only consumer product with "personality" still manufactured and attainable by "average" folk is probably the modern automobile, and there is a huge of a lobby of mouth-breathing zealots hell-bent on turning that into an interchangeable transportation pod. Cherish the remnants of actual western culture and individuality while you still can. 
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