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crytklmass · #16 03-04-2009, 10:52 PM

Curious....... I noticed Watchmen received an "R" rating while most if not all comic related movies are pg-13. Will this movie have more carnage, graphic violence than the dark knight. Is it due to nudity? More of an adult comic movie than a childs comic movie. I guess I'll leave my son at home to watch spiderman. For the lucky few that viewed a free screening, what do you think? would you bring an 8 year old?

rickr15 · #17 03-05-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crytklmass

Curious....... I noticed Watchmen received an "R" rating while most if not all comic related movies are pg-13. Will this movie have more carnage, graphic violence than the dark knight. Is it due to nudity? More of an adult comic movie than a childs comic movie. I guess I'll leave my son at home to watch spiderman. For the lucky few that viewed a free screening, what do you think? would you bring an 8 year old?

Since your asking this I 'm going to guess you have never read the "graphic" novel its based on. If the movie is anything like the book it would be pretty explicit and very violent for an 8 year old. Not the Spiderman type violence either but torture, random murder etc.

slow_jazz · #18 03-05-2009, 08:31 AM

Looks great. I'll be seeing it sometime this weekend....

fotno · #19 03-05-2009, 09:13 AM

I consider myself fortunate to have been a comic fan during a time when the all of the walls of comic tradition were being smashed down by people like Alan Moore, Frank Miller, Bill Sienkiewicz, Neil Gaiman et al... It was as if the comic genre was maturing at speed with me. As I outgrew the traditional stories and art of Detective Comics or X-Men, along came V For Vendetta, Watchmen, The Dark Knight, Death, and Elektra Assassin.

For a time, I eagerly anticipated each and every film adaptation that claimed to be inspired in any way by these mold-breakers. But after the disappointments of the Daredevil, Batman, and Elektra films I was (shall we say) not particularly enthused to hear that Moore's V For Vendetta and Watchmen were slated to begin production. I was pleasantly surprised to find that in the case of V For Vendetta at least, the film makers had managed to stay true enough to the story that I actually enjoyed it. I hope that Watchmen will be similar experience. I will watch it, but I doubt very seriously I will trek to a theater to do so. There's something about paying $10 a ticket to be disappointed that seemingly increases that disappointment exponentially.

Teron · #20 03-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Well the current Rotten Tomatoes number is at 66%

In my brief quick reading of the main page there...

I'm seeing from the negatives that if you're familiar with the comic, it's great. But it's scattered and confusing for those not familiar with the comic.
Duh...maybe? As with the comic I'm sure a second or third viewing will help. I think I got a lot more out of it the second reading myself. To me that's like saying Aliens just wasn't appropriate for taking the kiddies to and those not interested in sci-fi might leave disappointed.
Duh?

What I'm picking up on the negative reviews, and only the quick summaries...(I don't want to read too much before I see it) is that some people are expecting this to be DIFFERENT than the comic and dumbed down or catered to mass population. In reading between the lines I'm already seeing people hinting the R rating and the content of the story is not for all of the masses so this movie sucks...yeesh.

In that sense I'm thrilled as it means they did stick close to the book(though as one review said no sushi in this one so the ending changed, but I already knew this).

I also see complaints of it being not long enough. I will look forward to the extended top of the heap Blu-Ray in the fall I'm guessing.

Another complaint about CGI and mars...I also expected to see complaints about heavy CGI with the good Dr. too.

I'm going to try to see it this weekend but that might not happen due to being sick. I'm hoping a nice Sunday matinee if I feel better.

For those that have seen it...2 hours 45 minutes...is there an intermission in the middle? I assume not...but The Dark Knight was tough enough to sit through for 2 hours 27 or whatever it was. I will likely see this at least 2x in the theater anyhow but sitting still for 2 hours is tough enough - another 45 minutes on top of that..yech.

Teron · #21 03-05-2009, 09:17 PM

fotno you didn't like Batman Begins or the Dark Knight?

masterlu · #22 03-05-2009, 09:23 PM

I'm in!

Teron · #23 03-05-2009, 09:32 PM

I couldn't help it...I read three of the negative reviews...

Here's a gem...

"Alas, backstories tend to clutter up a movie, especially when there are six of them to get through. So director Zack Snyder is still doling out origin flashbacks two hours and seven minutes into his little epic."

To which I say, read the comic..flashbacks are there almost up to the end of the books. It's one of the reasons I found the book interesting. To edit the watchmen comics to go in order in a proper timeline would take a lot out of story and make it a whole lot less interesting.

Anyhoo I'll post a quick review myself here in this thread after I see it.

Ashfan · #24 03-06-2009, 10:27 AM

Went and saw it on the IMAX screen. I thought it was very good. Did a very good job of following the book, from what I remembered, although I only read the book once and that was about 3 years ago. And no, do NOT bring an 8 year old. Sex and violence abound. Talked to some true Watchmen nerds after the movie, and at least from that small sample they were overall very pleased.

SoCalBlink · #25 03-06-2009, 11:58 AM

I am going to see Watchmen tonight!! I'm pretty pumped... the trailer looked amazing and I read this really interesting article about how the movie came about and the struggles they faced with it's production.

Road to 'Watchmen': From Book to Big Screen

Wolverine · #26 03-07-2009, 07:48 AM

Saw it last night and thought it was very good.

Helps if you read the book but not needed. Like the book there is a lot of detail going on in the background that will require a second look or at least a careful viewing when it comes out on DVD.

By Hollywood box office standards my guess is that this will not be considered a "success" but I think they did a great job with some difficult/complex material. It very well may be considered a "classic" as time passes and people get over the X-Men/Spiderman comparisons. I actually liked the movie ending better than the book ending.

soundmotor · #27 03-07-2009, 07:55 AM

I am not catching the "Wow!" feeling from anyone.

markc2 · #28 03-07-2009, 08:38 PM

curious I really liked the ending. Rough though it be, from the book. Yea, I said it....book.

That ending is what made it so biting.

Mark

MisterFishey · #29 03-07-2009, 08:39 PM

Disclaimer: I have not read the book.

Just came back from watching it, and I was overall pleased. I thought that there were a TON of flashbacks, which made the story arc somewhat fragmented, but it really did make the movie. I followed it, but I could see why a population who makes movies like "Beverly Hills Chihuahua" #1 in the box office couldn't follow it. I liked how you didn't know everything until the end. I thought the violence was tasteful, and not too overdone like Sweeney Todd. The plot was intriguing, and really was thought provoking. At the time the book was written (1987), it was somewhat more relevant, but even today it resonates. Finally, a superhero movie where the heroes are not exactly heroes, by any means. The ending was not predictable at all, which was pleasantly surprising.

Some people said it was too long, but I felt it was a good length. It wouldn't have made sense at all if they axed some of the back stories, or whatnot. I think the extended version (keep in mind I haven't read the book) might be a bit too unnecessarily long.

Overall, good movie.

fotno · #30 03-07-2009, 08:55 PM

My nephew (18 years old) just watched it yesterday evening, and quite liked it. He had told me earlier in the week he was going and asked me if I'd heard of it. Of course I had no choice but to regale him with the story of how I waited in anticipation as each issue reached the book store, and read each one time and again waiting on the next. When I had finished my thumbnail sketch of the story he asked; "So it's kind of like X-Men right?" Of course I told him that it was nothing like X-Men, and if the movie stayed true to the source material, he'd soon see what I meant.

Early this morning he was on my doorstep, and with wide eyes, the first words out of his mouth were an excited; "It's NOTHING like X-Men." From his description at least, the filmmakers really made a stab at trying to be true to the book, and he and his friends (about 10 young people) truly enjoyed it.