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rca2000 01-08-2007 11:39 AM

Blade Runner...would it be the same without Vangelis music??
 
Blade Runner is a good movie,IMHO. BUT..with some "other type"of music...I DO NOT think it would have made the impact it has. Vangelis Soundtrack adds a LOT to this movie, I think.

Anyone else care to comment??

pmsummer 01-08-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rca2000
Blade Runner is a good movie,IMHO. BUT..with some "other type"of music...I DO NOT think it would have made the impact it has. Vangelis Soundtrack adds a LOT to this movie, I think.

Anyone else care to comment??

I loved the movie... but I can't remember the music.

"Chariots of Fire" might have been improved with Vangelis' music, but I can't say the same for "Bladerunner". Hans Zimmer or Kraftwerk might have been good choices for that film as well.

But NOT John Williams! ;)

Scorpion8 01-08-2007 04:11 PM

The music definitely helped the film, but it would have lived quite well with someone else's musical arrangements too. Vangelis's music isn't the only one that would have suited it. As long as the producer & director had a vision of what they wanted they could have found someone else. Still, it was great with the music the way it was ....

wajobu 01-08-2007 04:19 PM

The film and soundtrack are inseparable...the CD-reissue (after years with a lousy LP of an orchestral interpretation) by Mr. Papathanasiou is just excellent and includes some of the film's dialogue. The synths used at the time added a very brooding and dark quality to the film (whether original or Director's cut).

Very memorable combination for me, but I'm biased on the subject of many of Vangelis's compositions (though not all are excellent...like the recently forgettable Alexander, but the Soundtrack to 1492 is STUNNING).

Sandy G 01-08-2007 04:20 PM

...Didn't have anywhere near enuff titties, car wrecks, or machine gun battles for me. And Godzilla woulda LOVED to have made hash out of that rain-soaked, dreary-ass place...<grin>

Sandy G 01-08-2007 04:25 PM

...Just bein' facetious, guys, yeah, w/o the Vangelis music, it woulda been a helluva lot less of a flick.

shrinkboy 01-08-2007 04:34 PM

the score for bladerunner has always been controversial. personally, i think it is perfect for the film-- a blend of the organic and electronic. i have a number of vangelis recordings, most of them i enjoy. there has always been something eerily schmaltzy, romantic and over-the-top about his stuff, which he nevertheless manages to rescue with the daring nature of his individuality and willingness to disregard convention while also staying close to it.

i am not a worshipper, by any means, so that means i don't own 'chariots', and the 'jon and vangelis' stuff (gag me), but much of his earlier work was really great for casting weird spells. anyone ever heard 'Beauborg'?

wajobu 01-08-2007 04:38 PM

Yup...and then there's the bizarre album Invisible Connections on DG records, or Phos by Socrates with Vangelis producing and playing keyboards.

Jack Lord 01-08-2007 04:42 PM

For those of us who love the film, or any particular film, it is at first hard to imagine it without certain key elements. Nonetheless, it could have worked with something different.

Director's Cuts show that you can second guess masterpieces.

Jack G 01-08-2007 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rca2000
Blade Runner is a good movie,IMHO. BUT..with some "other type"of music...I DO NOT think it would have made the impact it has. Vangelis Soundtrack adds a LOT to this movie, I think.

Anyone else care to comment??

IMO, the soundtrack is too much of an integral part of the movie.
I also liked his soundtrack to Antarctica.
Jack

TheLordofPain 01-08-2007 07:25 PM

Never saw the movie... or heard of the fellow y'all are talkin' about. I did read I Dream of Electric Sheep though...

SoCal Sam 01-08-2007 09:02 PM

"You see a turtle and it is on its back. What do you do? You do know what a turtle is?"

The music makes the movie and the movie makes the music. I have the Director's cut and it didn't have the same impact the original had. I'd like to get the theatrical version to compare them. Still, one of my all time favorites.

soundmotor 01-08-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion8
The music definitely helped the film, but it would have lived quite well with someone else's musical arrangements too. Vangelis's music isn't the only one that would have suited it. As long as the producer & director had a vision of what they wanted they could have found someone else. Still, it was great with the music the way it was ....

I can't imagine the movie without Rutger Hauer.

Harrison Ford & the soundtrack however could have substitutions

soundmotor 01-08-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal Sam
I have the Director's cut and it didn't have the same impact the original had.

That is thought provoking comment.

I must consider it further.

:scratch2:

thedelihaus 01-09-2007 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLordofPain
Never saw the movie... or heard of the fellow y'all are talkin' about. I did read I Dream of Electric Sheep though...

It's worth a viewing.

Phillip K. Dick's stuff is great, and seems to translate well to film, fairly easy. I'm not a fan of Ah-nuld, but liked him in two films- Terminator, and, more relevant to this topic, in Total Recall.


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