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Kamakiri 11-27-2013 09:22 PM

On the bench: 1953 Raytheon Vu-Matic 21" TV
 
Decided to split this thread off, because it's going to end up taking a life of its own :)

Kamakiri 03-06-2015 06:08 AM

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Here's another set at an upcoming estate sale. I have absolutely no clue what it is. Center tuning knob makes me think Crosley?

BigDavesTV 03-06-2015 09:47 AM

Wow, that's a nice looking blonde! :-) I think maybe you are right, Crosley?

dieseljeep 03-06-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDavesTV (Post 3128006)
Wow, that's a nice looking blonde! :-) I think maybe you are right, Crosley?

Nope! Raytheon Vu-Matic.
They had the craziest clutch arrangement to select between the VHF and the UHF tuner.
I don't know of anyone that was able to repair them. :sigh:

Kamakiri 03-10-2015 08:46 AM

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Welp, I came home with it. It was marked at a ridiculous $195 at the estate sale. I figured hey, no harm in asking, so I asked if it worked. The lady said that the screen lit up, but they couldn't obviously get any stations.

I said, if I plug it in and the screen lights up, I'll give you $40 for it. It did, and I bought it. Full raster, but dim, with some bottom vertical foldover. Figured at least I'd have something to work with though. Cabinet's about as perfect as they come.

Got it home and powered it up. Raster came up, and I figured I'd see if I could tweak anything out of it. Raster started to shrink on the left slightly and it smelled as if something was heating up, so I shut it down.

Opened the back and saw a brightener. Wonderful. Removed the brightener and went to test the picture tube. The tube lit up WAY too bright on the tester and showed a dead short...so something either happened when I removed the socket on the picture tube or something's really amiss....but I shut it down fast. Not even sure what picture tube is in the stupid thing.....it's an original Raytheon tube but all the decals are missing on the inside.

Someone on the FB TV group mentioned that it should have a 21FP4, so I tested it as that, standard 6.3V filament and socket. It's a Raytheon model C2113A.

And yep, some rearranging down here is needed. Getting a little crowded lately.....

dieseljeep 03-10-2015 09:50 AM

The later models used a 21YP4. The screen curvature looks like a Y.

Kamakiri 03-10-2015 01:52 PM

Still the same heater voltage, and I'm all sorts of confused. I'll pull the 5U4 and power it up again and see what I see.

dieseljeep 03-11-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3128409)
Still the same heater voltage, and I'm all sorts of confused. I'll pull the 5U4 and power it up again and see what I see.

I don't think, that model uses a 5U4. Selenium rectifier, voltage doubler. It uses a small heater transformer for most of the tubes. The sweep tubes and a few others are in series across the line. :D

Kamakiri 03-11-2015 11:20 AM

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Aw frig. I didn't look at the chassis too closely. I kind of figured I'd run into seleniums the size of toasters in this damn thing. After all, Raytheon wasn't exactly known for a quality product in the TV realm.

One of those things that I knew would be a PITA to restore, but figured that if I didn't do it nobody else would, and what the heck, at least I had a starting point.

This is the screen shot I had from last power up. Potential is there, anyway....but this one might wait for a while.

Kamakiri 03-14-2015 06:27 PM

Well, it does have a 5U4, so nyah :D

This picture tube issue is weird. With a "remove shorts" procedure, the tube tests into the good range, but the H-K leakage pegs the needle. Not sure what type of picture that'll end up giving.....?

Now here's a thought.

The 21FP4 uses electrostatic focus. I believe I can use a 21EP4 which uses magnetic focus. I have a good 21EP4. Just have to rig up a focus magnet assembly.

Electronic M 03-14-2015 07:04 PM

Could also grab an isolation 'booster' and skip the modification.

dieseljeep 03-14-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3128768)
Well, it does have a 5U4, so nyah :D

This picture tube issue is weird. With a "remove shorts" procedure, the tube tests into the good range, but the H-K leakage pegs the needle. Not sure what type of picture that'll end up giving.....?

Now here's a thought.

The 21FP4 uses electrostatic focus. I believe I can use a 21EP4 which uses magnetic focus. I have a good 21EP4. Just have to rig up a focus magnet assembly.

I can't believe I'm wrong again! Third time this year and it's only March 14th.
I've never ran across a Raytheon with that control panel, that had a full transformer and 5U4 chassis. :sigh:

Kamakiri 03-15-2015 04:18 AM

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Yup! Here's a shot of the nasty dirty chassis.....

dieseljeep 03-15-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3128802)
Yup! Here's a shot of the nasty dirty chassis.....

I didn't think they built that chassis in a 21" model. It looks like there's mounting holes, for a PM focus unit.

Kamakiri 03-15-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3128946)
Nope! Raytheon Vu-Matic.
They had the craziest clutch arrangement to select between the VHF and the UHF tuner.
I don't know of anyone that was able to repair them. :sigh:

YOU'RE NOT KIDDING!!!!

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