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Crist Rigott 01-03-2016 09:07 PM

Help ID a TV from around 1957
 
Guys,

Here is a picture of a TV set we had cropped from a picture labeld 1957 Christmas.

I would appreciate it very much.

Thanks.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/...psg9dfb93k.jpg

Radiotronman 01-03-2016 09:13 PM

Looks like a Muntz.

jr_tech 01-03-2016 09:24 PM

Yep! something like this ( but likely a 21inch model ) :

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1953-Muntz-2763A.JPG

jr

Crist Rigott 01-03-2016 09:45 PM

I should say that this TV was a table top and not a console.

Gregb 01-03-2016 09:48 PM

The name on the pencil box looks to short to be Muntz, looks like RCA to me.

Gregb

jr_tech 01-03-2016 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crist Rigott (Post 3153061)
I should say that this TV was a table top and not a console.

Then perhaps a 2162A?

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-MUNTZ.htm

jr

jr_tech 01-03-2016 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregb (Post 3153062)
The name on the pencil box looks to short to be Muntz, looks like RCA to me.

Gregb

In that time frame, it would have said "RCA Victor"... look closely at my avatar. http://www.tvhistory.tv/1954-RCA-CT100-color.JPG

jr

Crist Rigott 01-03-2016 11:20 PM

Thanks for the input guys, but this TV was B&W.

Eric H 01-03-2016 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregb (Post 3153062)
The name on the pencil box looks to short to be Muntz, looks like RCA to me.

Gregb

The name does look shorter but it's not RCA and the plate does look exactly like it otherwise. Perhaps a set Muntz built for someone else? Not too many names shorter than Muntz though.

Crist Rigott 01-04-2016 07:41 AM

I'm thinking it might be an Arvin model 8179-TM.

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1953Advertising.htm

It has the same mask but the knobs are slightly different.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/...psbbod6ghs.jpg

Gregb 01-04-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 3153070)
In that time frame, it would have said "RCA Victor"... look closely at my avatar. http://www.tvhistory.tv/1954-RCA-CT100-color.JPG

jr

Your right, checked all of my RCA's and they all say "RCA Victor"

Gregb

jr_tech 01-04-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crist Rigott (Post 3153091)
I'm thinking it might be an Arvin model 8179-TM.

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1953Advertising.htm

It has the same mask but the knobs are slightly different.


Very likely close, but knob/crt width ratio says 21" to me... note that the Arvin next to it (8171) in the brochure seems to have knobs that better match your set.


jr

Crist Rigott 01-04-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 3153133)
Very likely close, but knob/crt width ratio says 21" to me... note that the Arvin next to it (8171) in the brochure seems to have knobs that better match your set.


jr

Wow, you are right about the knobs. I see what you mean on it being a 21 incher.

Crist Rigott 01-11-2016 12:00 AM

Bump.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 09:58 AM

I found it! It's in Louisville Ky. I'm dealing with the buyer as to payment and when I can pick it up. Almost 3 years now looking. Guys never give up!

https://tvrestorerguy.com/wp-content...V-Croppeda.jpg

https://tvrestorerguy.com/wp-content...ket-Placea.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 12-30-2018 11:02 AM

Very cool that you found one! Are the knobs included?

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207018)
Very cool that you found one! Are the knobs included?

IDK. All I know is what the picture shows. I'll try and find out some more details.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 02:16 PM

The knobs aren't with the TV. She will look for them and also provide a picture of the back and maybe get a model number for me. Fingers crossed.
I'm hoping the knobs are in the back of the TV.

Kevin Kuehn 12-30-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crist Rigott (Post 3207024)
I'm hoping the knobs are in the back of the TV.

And a chassis because I don't see any shafts in that picture, and yet the CRT seems snug up to the front. :scratch2:

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207028)
And a chassis because I don't see any shafts in that picture, and yet the CRT seems snug up to the front. :scratch2:

Yeah, I noticed that.

Electronic M 12-30-2018 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207028)
And a chassis because I don't see any shafts in that picture, and yet the CRT seems snug up to the front. :scratch2:

Even going back to the late 40's some makes mounted the CRT to the cabinet rather than the chassis (even though we tend to think of that as being a 60's and later practice)...

It would be a shame to just have a shell, but one (if sufficiently desperate) could probably take a RCA or Zenith chassis of the era adjust front control loactions and rig it drive the CRT and fit the cabinet to be convincing from the front.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3207031)
Even going back to the late 40's some makes mounted the CRT to the cabinet rather than the chassis (even though we tend to think of that as being a 60's and later practice)...

It would be a shame to just have a shell, but one (if sufficiently desperate) could probably take a RCA or Zenith chassis of the era adjust front control loactions and rig it drive the CRT and fit the cabinet to be convincing from the front.

Yeah, it could be just a shell. We'll see.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 08:06 PM

Here's a picture of an Arvin TV on eBay. Sure enough the picture tube is separate from the chassis. It's not looking too good for the home team right now.

https://tvrestorerguy.com/wp-content...her-Arvina.jpgg

Kevin Kuehn 12-30-2018 08:39 PM

It's still possible the chassis is loose and setting back further, or that it's some place else in the same room. The seller, if they're unaware, could have looked right at it and never put the two together. I can't imagine how they would have been separated by much distance, unless there was a fish tank experiment in the making.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207038)
It's still possible the chassis is loose and setting back further, or that it's some place else in the same room. The seller, if they're unaware, could have looked right at it and never put the two together. I can't imagine how they would have been separated by much distance, unless there was a fish tank experiment in the making.

Yup. We'll find out. I'm thinking that this TV is at her grandparents house, which she is disposing of all the stuff. I'll know more when I get a picture of the back.

Kevin Kuehn 12-30-2018 09:20 PM

If it is missing from the picture, you might reference that ebay photo, to help her know what to be on the lookout for.

Crist Rigott 12-30-2018 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207042)
If it is missing from the picture, you might reference that ebay photo, to help her know what to be on the lookout for.

Yeah, good thought.

Crist Rigott 01-01-2019 02:28 PM

Yes, it is missing the chassis.

https://tvrestorerguy.com/wp-content...85506048_n.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 01-01-2019 05:30 PM

Bummer. :sigh:

Crist Rigott 01-01-2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207090)
Bummer. :sigh:

Yeah. I'm going over there on Sunday morning. Here grandpa also messed with radios and other TV's. I'm hoping I can find it in all the mess from cleaning out the estate. At least it is a start.

kvflyer 01-02-2019 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crist Rigott (Post 3207092)
Yeah. I'm going over there on Sunday morning. Here grandpa also messed with radios and other TV's. I'm hoping I can find it in all the mess from cleaning out the estate. At least it is a start.

Possible. Good luck, leave no stone unturned!

Crist Rigott 01-02-2019 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvflyer (Post 3207126)
Possible. Good luck, leave no stone unturned!

Yeah, I'm going to do a lot of digging around!

Crist Rigott 01-07-2019 09:06 PM

Well I got the cabinet but could not find/locate the chassis. I'm starting a new thread on the restoration. I'll post a link.

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread...61#post3207261

Crist Rigott 01-07-2019 09:10 PM

BTW, the Arvin chassis number I really need is an TE-319 or TE-300. Anybody have anything close?
Thanks.


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