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BigDavesTV 01-30-2015 11:37 AM

1959 Sears Suburbanite Blonde Console
 
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This is exactly like the TV that I grew up with! My folks bought it new, shortly before I was born, and it was our only TV, until 1971, when the CRT was too dark and weak to watch! At that time, (1971) my Dad bought our first color tv, a Sears 19" Medalist color on a metal stand. I found this set almost two years ago, recapped the cans, and had it basically working, although it had a constant vertical roll, no vert. sync. Tube swapping didn't help, so I tabled it until last week, after repairing my Sencore SS137, I substituted the Vert. Sync Pulse, and that stabilized the "rolling." Working backwards, I found the culprit, a .0068uF at 600v. cap that was almost open! Replacing that solved my vertical issue, and you can see it now makes a decent picture. I have just a couple more things to do to it, but it's 95 percent.

lnx64 01-30-2015 12:04 PM

I thought for a second when reading this, you had found the color set.

Kamakiri 01-31-2015 05:03 AM

Might be time to just redo all the rest of the caps too......

rcaman 01-31-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3125143)
Might be time to just redo all the rest of the caps too......

i second that..

dishdude 01-31-2015 03:03 PM

That control panel looks interesting. Is that a backlit tuner on the right side?

Steve D. 01-31-2015 07:14 PM

Increased the exposure on the photo to show the details of the cabinet.

-Steve D.

dieseljeep 01-31-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dishdude (Post 3125169)
That control panel looks interesting. Is that a backlit tuner on the right side?

It might be, what they referred as the "Orbit" tuner. It was a large thumbwheel knob. It had a knob, next to it for the fine tuning.
The Suburbanite line was the middle line Sears product, where the Medalist, was the TOTL. Good sets, but not the same calibre as the similar priced, Zenith, RCA or Motorola. :scratch2:

BigDavesTV 02-01-2015 05:44 PM

This set does have what they call the "Orbit Tuning" as dieseljeep said, of course VHF only. My folks always bought Sears or Wards everything, as far as appliances especially. They both worked, but I'm sure didn't have Zenith or Motorola money to spend. It was a good set for us, for 11 or 12 years, only required a few repairs, until finally the crt was weak and dark. Someday I hope to find a Sears like our first color tv, I'll have to post it's model number, in case someone comes across one. I am going to replace the rest of the coupling caps, I have already replaced the electrolytic caps and I have new diodes to replace the old Selenium rectifiers with. It'll soon be complete! I wonder, I'm guessing that this is a Warwick produced set.

dieseljeep 02-01-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDavesTV (Post 3125271)
This set does have what they call the "Orbit Tuning" as dieseljeep said, of course VHF only. My folks always bought Sears or Wards everything, as far as appliances especially. They both worked, but I'm sure didn't have Zenith or Motorola money to spend. It was a good set for us, for 11 or 12 years, only required a few repairs, until finally the crt was weak and dark. Someday I hope to find a Sears like our first color tv, I'll have to post it's model number, in case someone comes across one. I am going to replace the rest of the coupling caps, I have already replaced the electrolytic caps and I have new diodes to replace the old Selenium rectifiers with. It'll soon be complete! I wonder, I'm guessing that this is a Warwick produced set.

I remember the set. It's a Warwick built set. The Suburbanite was usually a two stage IF set, without keyed AGC, where the Medalist was a three stage IF set, with keyed AGC. The earlier models were all voltage doubler, where, the later models, only the Medalist models were.

Gregb 02-01-2015 07:55 PM

I just received an email from a lady that has what looks to be one of these with a record player for sale. I am hoping to go have a look at it this week sometime.

Gregb

DavGoodlin 02-01-2015 10:39 PM

The Medalist Dave is referreing to may be one I had once. It had a one-knob tuner and "chromix" control, similar to a sepeia-tint control (versus hue on Motorolas my avatar). There was also a very solid handle and tough back cover with a concentric, round, teacup-shaped CRT boob.

Greg, is it like this one http://reading.craigslist.org/atd/4837407951.html

Gregb 02-02-2015 12:22 AM

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Hi Dave:
She sent me a picture which is below, I am going there to see it tomorrow evening.

Gregb

BigDavesTV 02-02-2015 06:56 AM

I hope you get the set Greg, that's a neat looking TV-HI-FI! I'll bet it's got about the same vertical chassis that my Suburbanite has. Good luck.

dieseljeep 02-02-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DavGoodlin (Post 3125299)
The Medalist Dave is referreing to may be one I had once. It had a one-knob tuner and "chromix" control, similar to a sepeia-tint control (versus hue on Motorolas my avatar). There was also a very solid handle and tough back cover with a concentric, round, teacup-shaped CRT boob.

Greg, is it like this one http://reading.craigslist.org/atd/4837407951.html

The set referred to is a 71-72 model, probably the last of that style. The chassis is a newer design, using a different color demod circuit and different tube line up. I bought it from another collector. I haven't tried it in ages.

Gregb 02-02-2015 08:54 PM

I went and had a look at the set tonight and it is in really nice condition. It has a British made Collaro turntable with a "Fleetwood" brand on it. The picture tube is the original Silvertone and came up to 40% on my tester right away so should make a picture. It does have the vertical chassis with two circuit boards and looks like a really easy set to service. I look forward to bringing it back to life. I paid $50 for it, I think it was great buy.

Gregb

Gregb 02-02-2015 09:44 PM

The chassis number is C817.51480, if anyone has any service data it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Gregb

Steve D. 02-02-2015 11:24 PM

Greg,

Went thru my Sams Photofact Index looking for your chassis #. There are pages & pages of Sears-Silvertone sets listed. I did not locate that chassis #.
Seeing your location, could it be that your set is a Canadian manufactured set?

-Steve D.

Gregb 02-02-2015 11:47 PM

Thanks for looking Steve and yes it was manufactured in Toronto Ontario Canada.

Gregb

dieseljeep 02-03-2015 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregb (Post 3125385)
Thanks for looking Steve and yes it was manufactured in Toronto Ontario Canada.

Gregb

Is there still a Simpson-Sears presence in Canada?
The chassis might still be a Warwick design. The record changer might've been changed at one point.
Maybe a picture of the chassis, would help! :scratch2:

Gregb 02-03-2015 07:10 PM

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Simpson Sears is still here. I don't see Warwick anywhere on the set but there is Silvertone all over it. I have no doubt at all that the record player is original to the set. I see this turntable in numerous different sets with different names on them but they are all the same.
Here are some pictures of the back of the chassis, the turntable, and the audio amp and speakers.

Gregb

Gregb 02-05-2015 05:01 PM

BUMP, anyone have any service info on my new find?
Thanks

Gregb

dieseljeep 02-05-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregb (Post 3125679)
BUMP, anyone have any service info on my new find?
Thanks

Gregb

The chassis looks like the typical Warwick Silvertone. It looks like a few of the caps and transformers are of Canadian manufacture.
BTW, what are the tubes in the small stand-alone amplifier. IIRC, the set, I remember, used the audio output stage for the TV for the mono phono.

Olorin67 02-05-2015 07:58 PM

Its normal for canadian market units to have british changers. Even RCA used Collaro or BSR changers in its products sold in Canada. It was cheaper to import them than ppay import duty on USA made changers. Looks like yours is a collaro, better quality than the usual Silvertone changers which were made by Crescent, I think.

Gregb 02-05-2015 09:29 PM

The tubes in the little amp are a 12AX7 and a 6AS5. The turntable has a stereo cartridge in it and there is an extra jack just out of sight in the amp and speaker picture that is marked "Stereo".
The amp is only connected to the large speaker, the small speaker is wired back to the TV chassis.

Gregb

BigDavesTV 02-06-2015 11:40 AM

Gregb, I just saw this, and your TV Chassis is just like the one in my Silvertone, looks identical! So if you P.M. me your email, I can help you with a Schematic, for the TV chassis at least. Those Collaro Changers are well made, and usually only need the old lube cleaned out, and re-lubed with the proper Lube, and sometimes on that Collaro, I've seen the Speed Selector assembly frozen from solidified lube, you must then clean ane re-lube that assembly if that's the case. Dave, "BigDavesTV"

dieseljeep 02-06-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregb (Post 3125707)
The tubes in the little amp are a 12AX7 and a 6AS5. The turntable has a stereo cartridge in it and there is an extra jack just out of sight in the amp and speaker picture that is marked "Stereo".
The amp is only connected to the large speaker, the small speaker is wired back to the TV chassis.

Gregb

The 6AS5 is a low B+ tube, similar to a 50C5. It looks like they're running it at slightly higher plate and screen voltage, as the 'lytic is a 200 volt cap.
Probably an honest 3 watts. :thmbsp:

Gregb 02-06-2015 04:35 PM

I really look forward to getting this one going. The Collaro changers are nice, I have a couple of them and they work great. It will be interesting to hear what the sound quality of this guy is.

Gregb

RobtWB 02-10-2015 10:50 PM

... interesting
have the same Suburbanite b/w console in storage ... havent looked at it in ages ...
do remember it does have vert. roll ... have original manilla envelope with all the usual sales literature manual etc.

dieseljeep 02-11-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Olorin67 (Post 3125698)
Its normal for canadian market units to have british changers. Even RCA used Collaro or BSR changers in its products sold in Canada. It was cheaper to import them than ppay import duty on USA made changers. Looks like yours is a collaro, better quality than the usual Silvertone changers which were made by Crescent, I think.

I saw one of those RCA "International" German built, radio-phono combinations. Looks like the typical German console, large glass multi-band dial scale, large white push buttons, ETC.
The changer was the usual RCA changer, we're so familiar with. Go figure! :scratch2:


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