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Robb 08-27-2013 01:52 PM

1972 Sharp 2U-121C B&W Vacuum Tube TV
 
Picked up this Rare 1972 Sharp 2U-121C Black and White Vacuum Tube TV for free, untested. Gave it a cleaning, polishing. It is in real nice condition, no cracks or faults on the case.Turned it on waited 45 seconds and it works. I believe this was made in 1971-72 ?? Made in Japan.
I cant find any info on it. I peeked inside and noticed it is a tube hybrid set ?

Some pics and video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_h7g...m-upload_owner

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/9...a1cf8d4c_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/9...61dcfbe9_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5536/9...3cab0951_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5458/9...2a206284_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/9...5d8afefe_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9...0f18294a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7357/9...a765fb31_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3749/9...0770ffab_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/9...742696f0_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/9...acc32051_b.jpg

Username1 08-27-2013 02:26 PM

Hi!

I would take the back off, remove the metal clip holding on the power cord, and turn on the tv and look to be sure all the tubes light up, I assume its a series string, so if one comes on they all should, but its a simple thing not to overlook...... See if you can feel any static on the front of the screen when you turn it on and off... If you can't tell, try testing for HV with a neon light. Get one, tie it to a wood stick and move it near the hv lead to the picture tube, if it don't light when the tv is on, you may have something wrong with the horiz, or hv rectifier.... Be sure none of the tubes have hot glowing red plates, like around the horiz output, that could be an oscillator not working...... Turn it on in a not too lit up room so you can see the plates...

Sandy G 08-27-2013 02:43 PM

Cute l'il feller ! Hope you get it goin' !

VintagePC 08-27-2013 03:35 PM

That thing looks pristine... but we still want to see some shots of the naughty bits inside ;)

Username1 08-27-2013 03:44 PM

Yah, we need to see the inside.... Take picts of the bottom of the pc board around the horiz output section & HV area.... Could be a bad spot on the pc board.....

Robb 08-27-2013 05:14 PM

Well, I'm an idiot ! :sigh:
I turned it on again after dinner, and waited roughly 45 seconds (longer than usual), and what do you know, I got a picture.
Here's a video of it. :smoke:


http://youtu.be/kL_Bmrzoc_s

zeno 08-27-2013 06:08 PM

Sams lists a 2U-121S about 71-72
Would guess the C is for Canada.
I remember them but all tube or hybrid? Been too long.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Username1 08-27-2013 06:16 PM

Yah, I would agree on the years.... Very nice......

Robb 08-27-2013 10:08 PM

Cool. Thanks zeno.

dieseljeep 08-28-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3080755)
Sams lists a 2U-121S about 71-72
Would guess the C is for Canada.
I remember them but all tube or hybrid? Been too long.

73 Zeno:smoke:

I'm surprised there is no CSA approval sticker on it.
Canada seemed to be pretty strict with that. :yes:

Robb 08-28-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3080781)
I'm surprised there is no CSA approval sticker on it.
Canada seemed to be pretty strict with that. :yes:


The heat of the tubes probably dried off the glue and it peeled off.

dieseljeep 08-28-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintagePC (Post 3080747)
That thing looks pristine... but we still want to see some shots of the naughty bits inside ;)

That's another set that was reasonably clean to begin with.
Grungy sets, no matter how hard you work cleaning them, don't come back that nice. Especially the lousy cigarette crud, plus the odor! :smoke:

Robb 08-28-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3080783)
That's another set that was reasonably clean to begin with.
Grungy sets, no matter how hard you work cleaning them, don't come back that nice. Especially the lousy cigarette crud, plus the odor! :smoke:

If the set doesnt look like it'll clean up well, or has sign of smoke, I just leave it !
Not worth getting it. I only pickup cosmetically 'clean' small sets !

ISawItOnTV 08-28-2013 08:54 PM

Man, that things in nice shape.

Robb 08-28-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISawItOnTV (Post 3080847)
Man, that things in nice shape.

Thanks.
Here's my others..

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/boa...table-crt-tvs/

sampson159 08-28-2013 09:37 PM

clean as a pin!

dieseljeep 08-29-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampson159 (Post 3080855)
clean as a pin!

The term is usually "Neat as a pin". Real Estate jargon.
Just how neat or clean is a pin? :D

VintagePC 08-29-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3080876)
The term is usually "Neat as a pin". Real Estate jargon.
Just how neat or clean is a pin? :D

Really depends how well you washed it after giving that last craigslist fishtanker a million pinpricks as punishment...? :D

kx250rider 08-29-2013 11:29 AM

WOW, that's CLEAN!!!!! Nice find, and I think it's in the best shape I've ever seen a small B&W plastic portable in.... ever!

Charles

Kamakiri 08-29-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3080848)

Let's get together next time you come to Buffalo. I'll send you home with some nice additions to that collection :yes:

Robb 08-29-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3080910)
Let's get together next time you come to Buffalo. I'll send you home with some nice additions to that collection :yes:

Find me a mint Porta Color set and I will come right away !

Kamakiri 08-29-2013 01:01 PM

Well, just have one shipped here, then come get it! There's enough of them for sale here and on ebay....just not up North :)

Robb 08-29-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kx250rider (Post 3080906)
WOW, that's CLEAN!!!!! Nice find, and I think it's in the best shape I've ever seen a small B&W plastic portable in.... ever!

Charles

My other B&W Are mintier. :D
There's a lil Magnavox here that is flawless.

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/boa...table-crt-tvs/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3080920)
Well, just have one shipped here, then come get it! There's enough of them for sale here and on ebay....just not up North :)

You guys are always searching for them on ebay. I dont have patience to search ebay consistently !

Jeffhs 08-29-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3080733)
Picked up this Rare Sharp 2U-121C Black and White Vacuum Tube TV for free, untested. Gave it a cleaning, polishing. It is in real nice condition, no cracks or faults on the case.Turned it on waited 45 seconds and it works. I believe this was made in 1971-72 ?? Made in Japan.
I cant find any info on it. I peeked inside and noticed it is a tube hybrid set ?

Some pics and video

http://youtu.be/kL_Bmrzoc_s

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/9...a1cf8d4c_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/9...61dcfbe9_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5536/9...3cab0951_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5458/9...2a206284_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/9...5d8afefe_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/9...0f18294a_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7357/9...a765fb31_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3749/9...0770ffab_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/9...742696f0_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/9...acc32051_b.jpg

How do you know the set "works"? :scratch2: Your Youtube video shows the set getting nothing at all on any channel except snow.

BTW, in the '70s I had a Sharp 12" portable, model TU-40PA, but with the controls mounted horizontally above the CRT, a monopole VHF antenna, and an earphone jack. Worked well at first, and I enjoyed watching it, but after a couple years the VHF tuner developed a problem (a poor connection, I suspect), although after 40 years I don't remember anymore; I could get the set to make a picture by wedging a screwdriver between the tuner shaft and the cabinet, but later the TV developed another problem (don't remember what) and I finally wound up junking it. I would think that TV would have lasted at least five or perhaps ten years with only an occasional tube replacement, if that. That set was built in the NTSC era and, supposedly, was made to last, so I would have expected it to work at least through the '70s and perhaps most of the '80s. However, with most of the set on a PC board, it might have developed serious problems anyway after a short time due to the horizontal output and other high-power tubes (such as the audio output tube) generating so much heat. I lost a CTC-12 RCA clone color TV in the early '70s when the video output board cracked, probably due to high heat inside the set and other factors (such as the materials early PC boards were made of, which I suspect was phenolic that doesn't stand up well to high temperatures).

Robb 08-29-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffhs (Post 3080925)
How do you know the set "works"? :scratch2: Your Youtube video shows the set getting nothing at all on any channel except snow.

Because if set turns on ans shows snow, it works.

electroking 08-30-2013 08:15 PM

How about connecting it to a source (VCR/DVD player with modulator output
set to channel 3 or 4) and looking at a real picture?

Robb 08-30-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electroking (Post 3081042)
How about connecting it to a source (VCR/DVD player with modulator output
set to channel 3 or 4) and looking at a real picture?

Not really on my high priority list right now.

zeno 09-02-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3080948)
Because if set turns on ans shows snow, it works.

Robb is correct. I used to tell Jr. techs about "good snow" &
"bad snow". You can tell a lot by how the snow looks. Streaky or
weak snow is bad. Lack of snow is worse. Nice sharp snow & a
nice waterfall in the audio is a beautiful thing. If you have a
good snow picture you will almost always get a very nice picture.
You may get a snowy pix but a new RF amp or mixer/osc will
take care of that. Kind of strange since most of the snow is
noise that is generated inside the TV............

73 Zeno:smoke:

compucat 09-03-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3081226)
Robb is correct. I used to tell Jr. techs about "good snow" &
"bad snow". You can tell a lot by how the snow looks. Streaky or
weak snow is bad. Lack of snow is worse. Nice sharp snow & a
nice waterfall in the audio is a beautiful thing. If you have a
good snow picture you will almost always get a very nice picture.
You may get a snowy pix but a new RF amp or mixer/osc will
take care of that. Kind of strange since most of the snow is
noise that is generated inside the TV............

73 Zeno:smoke:

Sets with more I.F. stages will produce more snow. I have noticed that 1940s sets, especially the lower end models will even when working correctly not produce much if any snow on unoccupied channels.

old_coot88 09-03-2013 01:59 PM

My first Boss, in explaining replaced parts to a customer, would refer to the RF amp as the "de-snower" tube.

VintagePC 09-03-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_coot88 (Post 3081273)
My first Boss, in explaining replaced parts to a customer, would refer to the RF amp as the "de-snower" tube.

That reminded me of this classic sketch, which I think we can all appreciate... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPXQ9fotZM

Robb 09-08-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintagePC (Post 3081288)
That reminded me of this classic sketch, which I think we can all appreciate... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPXQ9fotZM

Thats bloody hilarious !

rpm1200 09-12-2013 07:27 PM

IMO the "2372" stamped over the serial number is probably a date code: manufactured the 23rd week of 1972.

Robb 09-12-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpm1200 (Post 3082022)
IMO the "2372" stamped over the serial number is probably a date code: manufactured the 23rd week of 1972.

yup

zenithfan1 09-17-2013 01:27 AM

OMG! That set is super cute! I would love to have one of those, nice score man! The little japanese portables are fun to work on, and pretty much the only "newer" thing I collect tv wise. Otherwise, roundie color sets are my thing. It looks to me that your set was like never used or was very loved, you are lucky to have found it. I'm happy for you! ☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆......lol where in the hell is the "like" button......I spend too much time on Facebook.......:3

Robb 01-07-2014 01:07 PM

uploaded a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_h7g...m-upload_owner

snelson903 01-07-2014 01:35 PM

thats a nice sharp , where are these nice sets been hidden i was watching on utube new sets still in the box after 40 yrs still un opened , be nice to find some.


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