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bandersen 12-22-2010 08:55 PM

Admiral P17E31 scored
 
Thanks to WISCOJIM I made a nice little haul today including a 1958 Admiral P17E31 portable. It has a metal cabinet with gray hammertone finish. Seems to be in good shape - just a little dirty.
Not the type of set I usually go for, but it was free and is slowly growing on me :yes:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/...58be952a_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/...e94a3154_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5122/...818f2caa_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/...a489a37b_z.jpg

I also picked up a partial Riders set. I think volumes 3-28 were there, but I only took some - just don't have the room for everything.

Maybe the schematic for this set is in one of them ?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/...043d055a_z.jpg

Also got a couple video cameras and a bunch of random tubes.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5004/...eb591e19_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5164/...91474419_z.jpg

jeyurkon 12-22-2010 09:12 PM

Nice haul!

Boobtubeman 12-22-2010 11:24 PM

DANG!!! I just tossed out the monitor that sits atop that sony camera... and i know it worked... Had it sittin here for years...

Wish this score was a few weeks sooner..

SR

bandersen 12-23-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boobtubeman (Post 2990116)
DANG!!! I just tossed out the monitor that sits atop that sony camera... and i know it worked... Had it sittin here for years...

Wish this score was a few weeks sooner..

SR

Oh well. Do you think the camera will work with a B&W TV ?

Boobtubeman 12-23-2010 03:23 PM

It sure will. i had one back in the 80s and i used it on a tv. it will require a LINE IN to feed the video from it.. it should operate at 12 volts..

SR

bandersen 12-23-2010 09:17 PM

I found this set in one of the Riders (#24) I just hauled home :)

I can't believe it doesn't have a transformer. It must weight 50+ lbs!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/...61b1bc17_b.jpg

bandersen 01-09-2011 03:44 PM

I popped the back off this set and took a look inside. It appears to be in pretty good shape - nothing obviously blown.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5245/...80bbf0f2_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/...0ae4f331_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/...5c253f21_z.jpg

Horizontal output tube looks dead.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/...4c73f967_z.jpg

This could be why :tears: I see a few cracks in the old coating so I suspect this was a attempt to stop arcing.
I haven't tested it yet. Hopefully, it's still good under all that tape.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/...3f0320b4_z.jpg

Now to test the CRT. I would have used my Sencore CR70, but I'm missing the #4 adapter :(
So I had to drag out my old B&K 440. The emissions came right up into the good range. The life test stinks though - even after an hour of running. Oh well, I'm sure it's good enough to produce a picture.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/...533bc73d_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/...45c4fbfc_z.jpg

7"estatdef 01-09-2011 04:18 PM

Bob
I had one of those set about 20yrs ago. Good playing little set. A little cramped to work on.
Terry

bandersen 01-09-2011 04:22 PM

Any suggestions for taking it apart ? I've never worked on a portable like this.

kvflyer 01-09-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 2991469)
I popped the back off this set ...

I would have used my Sencore CR70, but I'm missing the #4 adapter :(
So I had to drag out my old B&K 440. ...

Bob,

You can use the universal adapter with the Sencore CR70 if you are missing the #4. Unfortunately, most of what I test has to use the universal. Really!!

Sandy G 01-09-2011 06:42 PM

Kewl set !

Tubejunke 01-09-2011 06:53 PM

If the chassis looked like that before any cleaning or blowing out, and with the number of stock tubes that I see, I would say that the set has low hours on it! Is the CRT an Admiral?

Eric H 01-09-2011 07:04 PM

The chassis on these portables usually unbolt then tip and remove out the back, unplugging the anode can be a challenge sometimes.

I never pay attention to the life test, if the tube goes up to good with little warm up then it's fine.

The Fly looks a little worrisome though, shouldn't be too hard to find one though.

Boobtubeman 01-09-2011 07:40 PM

When i rebuilt my motorolla i actually removed the CRT first with the yoke connected. It had a plug...
then removed the anode to the CRT.. It made removing the chassis alot easier...

SR

bandersen 01-09-2011 10:48 PM

Thanks for all the tips!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvflyer (Post 2991490)
Bob,

You can use the universal adapter with the Sencore CR70 if you are missing the #4. Unfortunately, most of what I test has to use the universal. Really!!

OK, I thought that would be the case. I guess it's just a matter of figuring out which CRT pins are filament, grid and cathode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubejunke (Post 2991492)
If the chassis looked like that before any cleaning or blowing out, and with the number of stock tubes that I see, I would say that the set has low hours on it! Is the CRT an Admiral?

That's what I was thinking too. Other than the flyback, it's very clean inside. Yes, it's an Admiral CRT and very likely the original.


BTW I finished sorting through all those loose tubes. No hidden treasures, but I did find a bunch of good 5U4s and 6SN7s.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5124/...86084dcb_z.jpg

Reece 01-10-2011 05:50 AM

I think I see a few large pin tubes in there. Is that a brass base short pin globe style oldie over at the left? That may be from the very early twenties. Even if a dud it's of interest to collectors.

That TV has a live chassis. How do they have that isolated from the metal cabinet?

bandersen 01-10-2011 02:17 PM

The large tubes are ham type tubes like 836 and 866. Yes, it's a brass based 01A. The filament is ok but the grid leak is broken inside.

One side of the AC goes right to the chassis ground. The cabinet ground is connected to that via a 1 M resistor and a 0.0047 1.5 kV capacitor. I assume to bleed away any charge that might accumulate.

bandersen 01-10-2011 02:28 PM

The flyback is Admiral# 79D 77-4. That's a FLY-137 I believe.

dieseljeep 01-10-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 2991495)
The chassis on these portables usually unbolt then tip and remove out the back, unplugging the anode can be a challenge sometimes.

I never pay attention to the life test, if the tube goes up to good with little warm up then it's fine.

The Fly looks a little worrisome though, shouldn't be too hard to find one though.

Remove the front safety glass bezel and the screws from the cabinet wrap-around on the bottom. The CRT and the chassis are all in one mounted on a frame.


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