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DaveWM 11-24-2009 07:32 AM

what is this!
 
http://fayar.craigslist.org/atq/1476442400.html

doing my normal antique search
looks like a franken set.

newhallone 11-24-2009 07:35 AM

Weird. Home made cab?

DaveWM 11-24-2009 07:41 AM

yea thats what I figred, with the modern looking CRT, but then I would guess the knobs would have to be none functional..

Very strange.

batterymaker 11-24-2009 09:38 AM

Curtis Mathes?

freakaftr8 11-24-2009 10:57 AM

Wierd! Looks European..

kx250rider 11-24-2009 11:45 AM

I think it's a 60s foreign set...

Charles

Jeffhs 11-24-2009 11:59 AM

I saw the word "Mathes" (I think) on the front panel, near the tuner. This set may have been cobbled together from odd parts, with the front escutcheon coming from an old CM TV.

Zenith26kc20 11-24-2009 12:46 PM

The mask looks European. Probably PAL system.

Charlie 11-24-2009 07:42 PM

The lower knobs certainly look like early-60's Curtis Mathes. Not so sure about that channel selector knob.

jr_tech 11-24-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 2960685)
Not so sure about that channel selector knob.

I vote for '53-55 DuMont.

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-DUMONT.htm

IIRC the UHF models had a little window at the top of the "flare" ,where the UHF channel was indicated.

jr

bgadow 11-24-2009 10:00 PM

There were a few-very few-American sets that used that type of crt mounting. They came and went in the early 60s as I recall. (this topic was raised in the last year or so) My guess is it is a genuine Curtis Mathes, fairly early for them. A rear view might tell a lot.

AUdubon5425 11-25-2009 05:41 AM

That has the same channel selector knob (and the other knobs look similar) as on my 60/61 Curtis Mathes

jr_tech 11-25-2009 01:46 PM

OK, I am thinking it is real :yes:...So the home-made looking cabinet is a really just a "rustic" style factory made, The European-looking crt mount WAS used briefly in the US, the knobs (including the DuMont-looking channel selector) appear to be correct for early 60s Curtis Mathis, but I still don't get the logo. I clearly see "Mathes" but where is "Curtis"? anybody got a picture of the C-M logo from that time period?

jr

Phil Nelson 11-25-2009 04:28 PM

The cabinet seems too nice to be homemade. It might have been stripped. Notice darker color here and there, especially in crannies. If the finish was dark brown and shinier, I doubt anyone would have thought it odd.

Do you think it once had legs? Hard to picture such a big set as a tabletop.

Here's a quaint idea -- how's about emailing the owner and asking for more info, including a photo of the insides? Or maybe that would be considered cheating :)

Phil

Charlie 11-25-2009 05:36 PM

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Here's the CM controls on my '63 b&w entertainment center. Can't really see the CM logo, but it's just the typical "CM" in the circle... each letter in it's own little block. It's not often that you see an old Curtis Mathes TV without a stereo/turntable.

No doubt about those knobs.

bgadow 11-25-2009 10:28 PM

It seems like I've seen something pretty early from C-M that just used the Mathes name. I could research some Sams but it's always too late by the time I get on here!

AUdubon5425 11-26-2009 03:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 2960728)
...the knobs (including the DuMont-looking channel selector) appear to be correct for early 60s Curtis Mathis, but I still don't get the logo. I clearly see "Mathes" but where is "Curtis"? anybody got a picture of the C-M logo from that time period?

You can see the knobs here: Thread on my C-M set

The pic below is the logo on the tube label inside the cabinet. There is no logo on my set - only a plate reading "Curtis-Mathes Hi-Fidelity"

I'd venture to guess C-M wasn't too consistent with their branding & logo placement this early on.

Charlie 11-26-2009 07:36 AM

CM's b&w chassis were quite long. AUdubon's chassis (looks like Model 10) and mine (Model 8E) are very similar. The one Eric has in his CM combo would be the same as well. I don't think I've seen a smaller CM chassis. The cabinet that's in the CL ad would be just long enough to put one of these in.

daro 11-27-2009 08:47 PM

The CRT looks like one from a Philco predictor if I'm not mistaken....

jr_tech 11-27-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by daro (Post 2960852)
The CRT looks like one from a Philco predictor if I'm not mistaken....

Very close indeed, but the corners on the 21" Predicta tube are slightly more rounded.

Charlie 12-06-2009 08:53 PM

Nothing else turned up on this set? I tried emailing the seller while I was on the East Coast a few days ago. Now I'm near Mississippi, and have no reply from seller regarding this set. Did anyone else try getting a response about it?


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