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stereocuuple 02-13-2009 11:58 AM

Let's talk about LOST
 
Hey all,

I am sure some of you out there watch "LOST", and as such are probably just as addicted as I am...I thought it would be fun to get some input on what the heck you guys think is going on.

I watch it every time it's on, including reruns on cable, and I literally get annoyed when it's over, I wish the episodes were 2 hours long every week.

Thanks,
Erin
:scratch2:

Snade 02-13-2009 12:01 PM

My wife and I are huge fans. Never miss it.

But the plot started getting confusing last season and this season, boy, it is very confusing.

I know they are in this time warp thing, but I also think this plot line is becoming distracting to the best thing about Lost - the development of each character - you really care about these characters.

We are still watching it, of course, but I hope it starts to be less crazy.

Oh, to answer your question - we learned last week that Jacob told Locke the he should move the island. But the island was moved by Ben. This caused the people on the island to be stuck in a time warp where they jump around in time. To stop the time warp, Locke must find his way off the island and bring back all the survivors that left the island at the end of last season. When they all come back, the time warp will get back into sink.

Or something like that.

Cheers, Snade

stereocuuple 02-13-2009 12:14 PM

Oh yeah , I knew that... do you think Jack will find out that Aaron is his half-nephew?? Or does he already know? I think at this point it's pretty clear Jack's dad is Jacob. I also wonder if Ben will be able to convince Hurley, Said, and Kate to come back to the island. To me, the fact that it's "crazy" is what is the best... Every time one thing is resolved, two more questions pop up to keep you wanting more. It may also be possible that Charlotte is the girl that Faraday put into a coma at Oxford. Also, if he was the one that told her never to come back to the island, and that is the reason she felt she HAD to come back, then didn't he kill her, even if it was indirectly.


Erin

wajobu 02-13-2009 12:16 PM

Sorry, my nose is bleeding.

Locke is the man :yes:

Snade 02-13-2009 12:18 PM

I'm hoping Mr. Echo comes back to life. Maybe when they go back in time, they can save him.

There was a hint of that when Hurley was playing chess against an invisible Mr. Echo.

stereocuuple 02-13-2009 12:22 PM

Maybe the time skipping will stop at a time before he died, thus bringing him back to the show... though I think we all know that dying on LOST doesn't really mean you're dead.... Locke has been dead this whole season, but he's still one of the top characters.

screenersam 02-13-2009 02:04 PM

1) I wonder about Faraday working for Widmore. I don't think they're allies, I think Faraday is using him for resources and opportunity.

2) disappointed that Charlotte died.

3) I like the Miles character. he's no saint but he's pretty straightforward, which is a nice change from all the agendas running around.

4) is Ben good or bad? neither? both? I remember a poison gas plot shortly after the freighter three landed (not the Dharma flashback); was Ben trying to gas the island (again)?

5) where's the stupid dog?

Snade 02-13-2009 02:21 PM

I'm in love with Juliet.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 03:37 PM

IMHO:1. Charlotte isn't the girl in the coma but as she stated grew up on the Island and a few weeks back a young red headed girl was seen to interact with the young Ben
2.Jack does know who Aaron is.
3. Jacob isn't Jacks father but using the convient body/spirit to communicate with the Losties
4. When he told Locke to say hello to my son......maybe not Jack but Widmore.
5. Widmore goes WAY BACK with the Island and maybe the force known as Jacob is his "father"
6. I think Jacob has been in the form of the dog as a convient form to watch the losties.
7. Ellie (the girl with the gun) is Eloise Hawking....Faradays mother.
8. Ben didn't seem to realize Eloise Hawing is Faradays mother.
9. The show is about the concept of time and fate. There are some forces on the island which allowed the manipulation of time and this was done within certain limits and something caused a burp in the flow and basically we see time trying to correct itself . What has happened has already happened....you can't change that....but maybe Desmond...?

EchoWars 02-13-2009 03:43 PM

Gave up on the show a few seasons ago...when you have to start taking notes on WTF is going on, it ceases to be entertainment.

dew042 02-13-2009 03:49 PM

It seems to be dragging in the direction of complication, for complication's sake. I still watch, but not as attentively as a few seasons ago.

dew.

dew042 02-13-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stereocuuple (Post 2497292)
Maybe the time skipping will stop at a time before he died, thus bringing him back to the show... though I think we all know that dying on LOST doesn't really mean you're dead.... Locke has been dead this whole season, but he's still one of the top characters.

Locke has always been a messiah character.

dew.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EchoWars (Post 2497793)
Gave up on the show a few seasons ago...when you have to start taking notes on WTF is going on, it ceases to be entertainment.

The bad thing is I have all that in my head. I'm actually quite fascinated with time/fate and the writers seem to share my interest. I hope that they have respect for the viewers and end the program (in 2yrs) in a way we can be satisfied, not like the X Files. Although ,in dealing with time/fate, who has the answers.

grumpy 02-13-2009 04:23 PM

I'm still trying to wrap my noodle around Jacob being jacks father.

I am glad that Suns hubby is still alive. I like him.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 04:23 PM

Anyone interested in a site on "the Time Theory" on Lost can check www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.htm

Mark W. 02-13-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stereocuuple (Post 2497279)
Oh yeah , I knew that... do you think Jack will find out that Aaron is his half-nephew?? Or does he already know? I think at this point it's pretty clear Jack's dad is Jacob.

Erin

Jack found that out at his dads funneral didn't he.

Mark W. 02-13-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 2497940)
I'm still trying to wrap my noodle around Jacob being jacks father.

I am glad that Suns hubby is still alive. I like him.

I think Jack father is just how Jacob took form I don't think Jacob has a human form but works through others?

As to Suns hubby hmm I guess that now that he caught up with the others he is back. But it seams like he took a shorter time path?

Chazb11 02-13-2009 05:20 PM

Good point from Mark about Jin's time path. When we see the survivors on the mainland it's 3 years after their rescue but when we see the losties on the island re-unite with Jin they don't act as though he's been gone very long...maybe a few days.

They seem to be leading us to believe that no one on the island is either alive or dead, but then the purgatory theory was dismissed by the writers a few years ago.

I'm glad to see the smoke monster coming back!

grumpy 02-13-2009 05:47 PM

Personally I thought the smoke monster was pretty silly. At least they explained a little of what its doing now.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazb11 (Post 2498111)
Good point from Mark about Jin's time path. When we see the survivors on the mainland it's 3 years after their rescue but when we see the losties on the island re-unite with Jin they don't act as though he's been gone very long...maybe a few days.

They seem to be leading us to believe that no one on the island is either alive or dead, but then the purgatory theory was dismissed by the writers a few years ago.

I'm glad to see the smoke monster coming back!

Time on the island progresses at a different sped than the outside world.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 2498200)
Personally I thought the smoke monster was pretty silly. At least they explained a little of what its doing now.

It may be trying to make corrections in the time line. What has happened..happened and cant be changed, thus the "corrections":scratch2:

Snade 02-13-2009 06:26 PM

Ok, in addition to Juliet, I am in love with Desmond's girlfriend - Penny.

Desmond is cool, but I'm not in love with him.

The beer is starting to kick-in.

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Snade (Post 2498327)
Ok, in addition to Juliet, I am in love with Desmond's girlfriend - Penny.

Desmond is cool, but I'm not in love with him.

The beer is starting to kick-in.

Kate!

grumpy 02-13-2009 07:22 PM

Kate is the most indecisive, irrational, irresponsible, selfish nut job on TV. I liked Claire better.

wajobu 02-13-2009 07:30 PM

Ah...Penny.

qboneus 02-13-2009 07:59 PM

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soundmotor 02-13-2009 09:03 PM

Personally I think L O S T started getting its mojo back about midway through last season. They almost L O S T me season 3 - season 4 1/2 but I hung with it. I am glad I did. I am completely enjoying the plot switchbacks. You recall when Locke met Richard and discovered he had not been born yet and told him his birth date? Now go back to midway through season 4 when Richard visited Locke when when he was a child. This is what I like about L O S T, these are easter eggs for me. My wife, 14YO, & myself are enjoying season 5 as much as 1 & 2.

Random thoughts -

Ben Linus, best villain, better than the Smoking Man even. Pure, distilled evil & maybe the best portrayal of a sociopath put on TV.

Hope Ecko gets folded back into the story somehow.

Sayeed, Jin, & Sawyer on my side if the going gets tough.

Kate gets the Barbi Benton, separated at birth award.

Desmond certainly seems to have the most fleshed out role this season......so far.

Locke rocks, has always rocked.

Like the new characters. Good performances from all, Faraday especially.

Libby, ah Libby. What a shame. Bring back Libby.

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Soundthought 02-13-2009 10:06 PM

I'm a big fan of the show. :)
The complexity of it had me hooked from the start.

Endlessly flowing open ended questions with curious twists and turns.
Connections, intersections, and resolutions that seemingly have no end.
Wild stuff, my friends :)
Plus, the way the writers forced us the have a vested emotional interest in the characters is.....I think..... brilliant.

IMO Some episodes/seasons were definately better than others.
But....
Just when I think they've streched the plot line way to thin, they come up with some crazy backstory or unseen connection that just makes you go.....huh?!?...Wow......Cool. :)

I'm really intrigued by the direction it's going, now.
Quantum physics.
Exotic matter.
Intervention of fate?
We'll see.....

Regards,
John

Cantabury Guy 02-13-2009 10:36 PM

I'm really intrigued by the direction it's going, now.
Quantum physics.
Exotic matter.
Intervention of fate?
We'll see.....


And from recent post...... BABES

stereocuuple 02-14-2009 12:50 AM

IMO, The BEST show ever made...I think because of the character-driven nature of the story, and the fact that even if you know what's going on you never really KNOW what's going on.


Erin

screenersam 02-14-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantabury Guy (Post 2499131)
I'm really intrigued by the direction it's going, now.
Quantum physics.
Exotic matter.
Intervention of fate?
We'll see.....


And from recent post...... BABES

quantum physics and babes; the winning formula.

agree wi above about Penny; rowrr.

Dynacophil 02-14-2009 09:54 AM

mmmmhevery season I miss the first 4 till I get used to the always different daytime it starts :)
sometimes I guess the writers don't know any more how they started and I'm damn sure the don't know how it'll go on. But every season draws me into the story again.
I'm anyway one Season back to to you :)

remember Twin Peaks? This was getting a little bit too.... abstract in a way, but's been nothing compared to Lost

P. Shivers 02-16-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wajobu (Post 2498571)
Ah...Penny.

For all you fans of Penny, AKA Sonya Walger, you should check out the movie "The Search for John Gissing." It's a pretty funny film from 2001, that was released on DVD late last year. She's very funny, and very easy on the eyes in that film.:yes:

screenersam 02-19-2009 09:44 AM

02/18 epi recap (spoilers!)
great opening--Jack awakes on The Island, drags hurley out of a pond and finds Kate washed up. dream? flashback? flashforward? "46 hours earlier..."

WE FOUND OUT...
The Pendulum Room was a Dharma project designed by an unidentified, extremely bright scientist and his team (barring time travel, not Faraday?). It utilizes some electromagnetic phenomenon to link with similar places on earth (Tunisia, North Pole...) On the wall is a picture of The Island listed as a US Army photo 1954 (Jughead test?) Mrs. Hawking uses the room (as did Dharma) to figure when/where The Island will be, and directs them to take a certain flight. The flight must be as close as possible to the Oceanic 815 flight, so all the O5 (Oceanic Five; the O6 minus Aaron) should be on the plane.
Locke's body is loaded on to replace Jack's father. Sayid appears, cuffed to an unidentified Law Enforcement Woman (replacing Kate's cuffed trip). End of epi; we know at least Jack, Kate and Hurley made it back.
Desmond delivers his message and insists he will have nothing more to do with The Island; Mrs. Hawking informs him 'The Island isn't finished with you'.
Ben disappears to run an errand and boards scratched, bruised and arm in cast.
Lapidus (now nicely groomed) is the pilot; seeing the O5 he observes 'We're not going to Guam, are we?'
Jack/Hurley/Kate are found by Jin, wearing a Dharma coverall and driving the van; his expression is less than welcoming.
questions;
*who/what convinced kate and Hurley to get on the plane?
*where's Aaron?
*what happened to Ben? he threatened to kill Penny (Widmore's daughter) in retaliation for Alex's (his adopted daughter) death (blamed on Widmore). Ben saw Desmond in the Pendulum room; did he track them down? did Violence ensue? If he did get Penny (hope not!) will Desmond go vendetta? might motivate him to go back to The...well, you know where.
*did Sayid willingly board or is he being extradited; if so by whom, for what crime?
*was Jin not happy to see them? didn't recognize them due to time changes? or just the camera didn't stay on him long enough?
*Where are Sayid and Sun? Ben?
*did the plane crash or were the O5 just zapped out?

like any good Lost episode, it asks as many questions as it answers...

Cantabury Guy 02-19-2009 03:36 PM

Not one of the better episodes. I thought the return was "too simple" and Ms Hawking was acting like it was that TV program Weakest Link. I actually felt the way the return was handled was a "Jump The Shark" moment. I was waiting for Fonzie to go water skiing past Hurley. I hope hope this was just a blip and not a loss of creativity and direction.
I would assume Aaron is with his grandmother who was conviently in L.A. That would tie up that issue well.
Jin and his group(Sawyer,Juliet,Faraday) are working in Dharma as that is where they jumped to. Remember Faraday was seen in a Dharma work unit a few weeks back.
Sayid, Sun and Ben are probably in another loop. This is a way the entire long history of the Island can be revealed.
I can't imagine the plane actually crashed because it would be really inappropriate that all the other people would be killed for the sake of the returners.

Combwork 02-19-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stereocuuple (Post 2497233)
Hey all,

I am sure some of you out there watch "LOST", and as such are probably just as addicted as I am...I thought it would be fun to get some input on what the heck you guys think is going on.

I watch it every time it's on, including reruns on cable, and I literally get annoyed when it's over, I wish the episodes were 2 hours long every week.

Thanks,
Erin
:scratch2:

I wish the damn thing would reach some kind of conclusion. It was OK when it started, but it really is flogging a dead horse now. Is it just a pension plan for the actors left in it?

Snade 02-19-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantabury Guy (Post 2515898)
I can't imagine the plane actually crashed because it would be really inappropriate that all the other people would be killed for the sake of the returners.

I'm hoping the flight attendant survived on the island. She was cute.

leesonic 02-19-2009 03:59 PM

Can't stand it. Whenever my wife watches it, you'll find me in the AudioKarma chat room.

Lee.

Cantabury Guy 02-19-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 2515912)
I wish the damn thing would reach some kind of conclusion. It was OK when it started, but it really is flogging a dead horse now. Is it just a pension plan for the actors left in it?

They have a set number of shows to do until the conclusion which will be next season. They have actually written a finish to the show and are working backwards to fill in the missing history of the Island.

markthefixer 02-19-2009 07:44 PM

That VW bus was looking pretty shiny and new....

And what about the airline water bottle washing up a few episodes back. (same airline as the Guam plane)


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