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ekmanning5 06-17-2007 09:30 PM

Dr. Strangelove (the movie , that is)
 
Just finished watching Dr. Strangelove with my 14 year old son. I had seen parts of it many times, but this was the first time I ever saw it complete. What a great flick to share with him! He got a huge kick out of, "there's no fighting in the war room". :thmbsp:

Sandy G 06-17-2007 09:43 PM

Mein Fuhrer, I CAN VALK !! <grin>

Sandy G 06-17-2007 09:45 PM

"Strangelove" is one of those flicks, like "Monty Python & the Holy Grail" that every time you watch it, you can get something new & different out of.

JimJ[VT] 06-17-2007 10:02 PM

It's a good 'un :)

slow_jazz 06-17-2007 10:27 PM

Gotta love Slim Pickens there.

That movie still brings a smile to my face everytime I catch part of it.

Brainwashed 06-17-2007 10:30 PM

I always get a kick out of the 'precious bodily fluids' bit, since I'm a water plant operator.

Tom Brennan 06-18-2007 01:11 AM

Good picture but I think Kubrick hated people.

mhardy6647 06-18-2007 06:56 AM

One of my very favorite movies of all.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/sho...ht=strangelove

Holst 06-18-2007 07:27 AM

And there's the classic Simpson's line....No riding the bomb

Jim Campbell 06-18-2007 09:44 AM

nuclear combat toe to toe with the ruskies.............slim pickens finest on screen stuff i'd say.great flick!!!

Sandy G 06-18-2007 09:48 AM

The opening credits w/"Try a Little Tenderness" is mildly erotic, in a way....

salred 06-18-2007 09:59 AM

You mean that in-flight refueling scene might be symbolic of, well, you know, ummm, er, ..... sex?

Steve A.

Sandy G 06-18-2007 10:08 AM

Well...It's poss-a-bull...It's poss-a-bull... <grin>

pmsummer 06-18-2007 12:14 PM

Strangelove Trivia

Kubrick met Henry Kissinger at a party after he made Lolita. Kissinger was the model for Dr. Strangelove (mannerisms and accent).

Watch Major Kong (Pickens) as he reads the contents of the Survival Kit. When he says "a fella could have a good weekend in Vegas", it's an overdub. He actually said "Dallas", but they held the film back from release due to the Kennedy assassination, and then overdubbed the reference.

Some of the scenes flying low over frozen wasteland of Russia were reused in "2001: A Space Odyssey" (all colored/polarized up) as part of the descent to Jupiter scene.

Jack Lord 06-18-2007 01:48 PM

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Kubrick met Henry Kissinger at a party after he made Lolita. Kissinger was the model for Dr. Strangelove (mannerisms and accent).
I reckon Werner von Braun is the more likely inspiration. Kissinger is nothing like Strangelove and vice-versa.

Great flick. Peter Sellars is at the top of his game.

Wornears 06-18-2007 02:08 PM

George C. Scott and Sterling Hayden are great as well. Although Peter Sellers' roles were just unbelievable. His "Mandrake" is priceless.

Scott's Gen. Turgidson description of the U.S. deaths from a nuclear war confrontation get me howling every time:

Turgidson: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops, uh, depending on the breaks.

Muffley: I refuse to go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler.

Turgidson: Perhaps it might be better, Mr. President, if you were more concerned with the American people, than with your image in the history books.

And this scene with Scott about the possibility of Slim Pickens' bomber getting through to deliver his payload:

Muffley: Is there really a chance for that plane to get through?

Turgidson: Mr. President, if I may speak freely, the Russkie talks big, but frankly, we think he's short of know-how. I mean, you just can't expect a bunch of ignorant peons to understand a machine like some of our boys. And that's not meant as an insult, Mr. Ambassador, I mean, you, you take your average Russkie, we all know how much guts he's got. Hell, look, look at all them them Nazis killed off and they still wouldn't quit...if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs], you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.

Muffley: Yeah, but has he got a chance?

Turgidson: Has he got a chance? Hell, Ye...ye... [He covers his mouth dumbstruck, suddenly and solemnly grasping the implications of his words]

Should be required viewing in every high school history class in the U.S. (and elsewhere).

JerryM 06-18-2007 03:37 PM

I like the scene where the soldiers are trying to storm the air base. While a pitched gunbattle is going on in the background, the camera pans on the sign with the SAC motto "Peace is our Profession."


"I don't avoid the company of women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence."

soundmotor 06-18-2007 09:25 PM

Dr. Strangelove may be a truly perfect film.

It some ways it's like a great piece of music that you never tire of listening to.

ekmanning5 06-19-2007 07:55 AM

I gave this a second veiwing last night before I shipped it back. I only want to know one thing; where are the George C. Scotts among todays actors? Where are the Sterling Haydons? Where are the Peter Sellers'? These guys were great. The shots of Sterling Hayden during one of his extended monologues when the camera was below his face...classic. With all due respect to todays film industry...they DON"T make them like this anymore.

Jim Campbell 06-19-2007 08:12 AM

unfortunately these days an actor is judged more for his abs than acting and dialog is usurped by car crashes,explosions and spfx...........i think that the home theater - thx world we live in has a down side and that is that films like the maltese falcon will not get made any more as they dont have the wow factor that todays gear allows............

Sandy G 06-19-2007 08:17 AM

Hollywood is way too infatuated w/prettyboys...I can't think off hand of a single "he-man" type, under 65, anyway. Back in the day, there were all sorts of them, but now they're long gone. Sterling, to me, was a very nice looking man, in a craggy way, but nobody could accuse him of being a "prettyboy".

pmsummer 06-19-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ekmanning5 (Post 1208922)
I only want to know one thing; where are the George C. Scotts among todays actors? Where are the Sterling Haydons? Where are the Peter Sellers'? These guys were great. The shots of Sterling Hayden during one of his extended monologues when the camera was below his face...classic. With all due respect to todays film industry...they DON"T make them like this anymore.

Well, they don't make Stanley Kubricks anymore, either.

Duffinator 06-19-2007 09:37 AM

Excellent timing. I borrowed this movie from a friend over the weekend. I haven't seen it in a couple of decades and look forward to watching it again in the next couple of days.

ekmanning5 06-19-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pmsummer (Post 1209065)
Well, they don't make Stanley Kubricks anymore, either.

About two years ago I stumbled across another Kubrik gem; "Paths of Glory". If you EVER get a chance to watch this great anti-war movie, please do. You will not be disappointed.

Sandy G 06-19-2007 11:09 AM

Another Kubrick flick w/Sterling Hayden was "The Killing"-I THINK that's the name of it-from '56 or so. Great Film Noir. Sterling was a big man, kinda menacing presence, & that serves him VERY well in this movie...

soundmotor 06-19-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ekmanning5 (Post 1208922)
I gave this a second veiwing last night before I shipped it back. I only want to know one thing; where are the George C. Scotts among todays actors? Where are the Sterling Haydons? Where are the Peter Sellers'? These guys were great. The shots of Sterling Hayden during one of his extended monologues when the camera was below his face...classic. With all due respect to todays film industry...they DON"T make them like this anymore.

You pose a great and important question for film lovers.

I am going to start another thread rather than hijack this one.

It is topic that deserves more disccussion.

Mr Natural 06-19-2007 05:37 PM

:scratch2:I was always skeptical of flouridation.........:scratch2:

Wornears 06-19-2007 06:06 PM

For a real crazy ride with Hayden and Joan Crawford, look for "Johnny Guitar" Directed by Nicolas Ray, 1954. Shows up every so often on TCM or when Crawford is featured on a film review weekend. Has an uncredited appearance by Dennis Hopper (Ray later put him in Rebel Without A Cause).

More fun stuff about it here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047136/

Hayden is one of those actors, like Robert Mitchum, who were better than their press.

For more on him: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001330/

Jack Lord 06-20-2007 09:01 AM

If my memory serves me correctly, did not Hayden run afoul of McCarthyism or its aftermath?

cruisaire 06-20-2007 09:29 AM

This film is "the bomb"!

Duffinator 06-20-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cruisaire (Post 1210637)
This film is "the bomb"!

Great avatar! :yes: I watched this movie last night for the first time in decades. One word: Brillant!

Rex Everything 06-20-2007 07:59 PM

What a great movie, a long time favorite.

"Your average commie has no respect for human life, not even his own"

"But...but...he'll see the big board"

I'm LOL'n as I type this.

herbman1975 06-20-2007 08:02 PM

"Animals could be bred and slaughtered!"

Sandy G 06-20-2007 09:14 PM

No, no, no...it's "Animals could be bred...Und SCHLAUGHTERED !!" <grin>

Cloth Ears 06-20-2007 09:23 PM

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

"Okay. I'm gonna get your money for ya. But if you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"
"What?"
"You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."

Strangelove and Paths of Glory are Kubrick's best, IMO. And most of 2001 (I don't take drugs any more, so the flight through the wormhole is a bit over-the-top now). But, as I've got them all (except for the pre-The Killing ones), I guess I can pick 'n' choose as I like.

Who made his movie debut in this film...?

Dr. Strangelove 06-21-2007 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloth Ears (Post 1211890)

Who made his movie debut in this film...?

James Earl Jones


Doc

Tom Brennan 06-24-2007 08:47 AM

As far as "Paths of Glory" goes; one can see Adolphe Monjue as the actual "hero" of the movie and the Kirk Douglas character as an unrealistic sap.

Monjue realizes that France MUST beat Germany and this can ony be done by a disiplined army. Douglas takes the high road over three lives while hundreds of thousands are being killed until Germany is beaten. Monjue sees the big picture and Douglas the small one.

ekmanning5 06-24-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Brennan (Post 1216644)
As far as "Paths of Glory" goes; one can see Adolphe Monjue as the actual "hero" of the movie and the Kirk Douglas character as an unrealistic sap.

Monjue realizes that France MUST beat Germany and this can ony be done by a disiplined army. Douglas takes the high road over three lives while hundreds of thousands are being killed until Germany is beaten. Monjue sees the big picture and Douglas the small one.

Ahhh, you see, that's the sign of a good movie. One that brings about intelligent discussion. A very tricky argument here.
My take on it is that Monjue belongs to a class of men as old as civilisation itself. The kind that repeatedly see only the small picture. The kind of man that believes that war is a solution to war. When actually the wars just keep coming. I think Douglas comes to believe in the futility of the system. When the three men are executed they have finally beat the system. DOUGLAS may be the only one that truly sees the big picture.

Tom Brennan 06-24-2007 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ekmanning5 (Post 1216916)
Ahhh, you see, that's the sign of a good movie. One that brings about intelligent discussion. A very tricky argument here.
My take on it is that Monjue belongs to a class of men as old as civilisation itself. The kind that repeatedly see only the small picture. The kind of man that believes that war is a solution to war. When actually the wars just keep coming. I think Douglas comes to believe in the futility of the system. When the three men are executed they have finally beat the system. DOUGLAS may be the only one that truly sees the big picture.


But Douglas's belief in the futility of the system doesn't get them out of the immediate peril, a war with a vicious and predatory nation.

Perhaps Douglas takes a bigger view of mankind and Monjue takes a bigger view of the war.

I haven't watched the picture in a few years, I should watch it again.

Regards

ekmanning5 06-24-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Brennan (Post 1216994)
But Douglas's belief in the futility of the system doesn't get them out of the immediate peril, a war with a vicious and predatory nation.

Perhaps Douglas takes a bigger view of mankind and Monjue takes a bigger view of the war.

I haven't watched the picture in a few years, I should watch it again.

Regards

Me too.:thmbsp:


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