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Telecolor 3007
11-24-2005, 05:49 PM
Ladyes and gentelmens, comrades, here is finally, at last my vintage Romanian color tv set, Telecolor 3007. It’s the second type of colur tv set Made in Romania (the first one was Telecolor 3006, in 1983 - I’ve never seen one). In enharited the set in 2003, toghther with instruction book, the schematic, the recipt and the varanty certificate. Unfortnely, I had to change the line output transformer.
ACTHUNG! The image displayed on the screen is generated by the tuner of the V.C.R. concted to the set!!!
:worthless
http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=69097
http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=69100
http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=69102
And here are some data/infos about the set:
Manufacturing date: December the 5th, 1984
Manufacturer former Întreprinderea “Electronica” (“Electronica” Plant) from Bucharest, Romania - the sets where asambled under G.D.R. licence
Date o boughting: December the 25th, 1984
Price 14,400 lei (aprox 8-11 sallaryes!!! :jawdrop:) - aquyred on December the 7th, 1984
Sistem P.A.L./SECAM - automatic comunitation of the standard; it recives channels 1-12 (VHF) and 21-65 (UHF) acording to O.I.R.T. and C.C.I.R standards, 6 memory buttons with mechanical programing and memory, button number 6 is also use for V.C.R. input (via an RF cable)
Picture tube: A 56-701X, 110 degrees deflexion, in line shadow mask, 56 cm (22”) screen diagonale; electromagnetic dexflexion; picture tube “Toshiba” (Made in Japan) :rockon: - unfourtenley the picture tube is 3 or 4th qualty (but better than those garbage in our days Made in China :upyours:, Taiwan :upyours:, Thailand :up yours:, Indonesia :upyours:,Turkey :upyours: or Malaysia :smoke: :worried: ), and not with those poor made by “Unitra” (Poland)
Weight: aprox. 31 kg (68.4 lbs)
Dimensions: (Length x Height x Depth) 72 x 49 x 44 cms (apox. 28,43 x 19,3 x 17,32”)
Voltage: 220V (+10%, -20%) @50Hz
Power compsuntion: 98W (medium), 120W (maximum)
Automatic controls: 1. Vertical and horyzontal sincornization; 2.Image dimension; 3. Automatic adjument of the amplification; 4. Standard comutation (PAL/SECAM); 5. A.F.C. (Automatic Freqeuncy Control) - with the help of a button it can be switch on/off
Other stuff: 1. Output for audio tape recording (via 5 D.I.N. concetor) and phones (via an 5 DIN conector) (when you insert the phones conector the speakers dosen’t turn off automaticly-if you want to turn it off you must press a button); 2. On/Off button for the speaker; 4. Tonality adjusment knob; 5. Wired remote control (the remote control is optional) - if I want to put one on the the set nowdays it’ll cost me 100 new lei (the minimal wage in Romania is 310 new lei!!!) :jawdrop:
Number of integrated circuits: 33
Number of tranzistors: 47
Number of diodes: 64
1 triplor with silicium
Speaker 3W@3 ohms
Antena: coaxial 75 ohms
The majority of the semiconductors, the channle selctor, the programator are Made in G.D.R (East-Germnay), some of them are Made in former Ch, a few capacitors (“I.P.E.E.”) and the I think the case in Romania.

bolly
11-24-2005, 05:58 PM
last two picture links won't work Telecolor3007

RichPA
11-24-2005, 06:00 PM
Pics worked for me just now. Cool to see your namesake, Telecolor!

Telecolor 3007
11-24-2005, 06:01 PM
I've just try 'em and they work.

dr.ido
11-24-2005, 06:01 PM
The linked pictures work for me.

bolly
11-24-2005, 06:09 PM
lookin good! :thmbsp:

Sandy G
11-24-2005, 09:39 PM
That looks like Fox News Network or CNN or the Romanian equivalents thereof...Nice set !!-Sandy G.

Telecolor 3007
11-25-2005, 07:02 AM
No, it's an Romanian televison ["Realitatea (The Reality :D) Tv"]

Sandy G
11-25-2005, 07:20 AM
Do y'all get Fox and/or CNN there? What about Discovery, A&E, The History Channel, Food Network, any of those? -Sandy G.

Telecolor 3007
11-25-2005, 11:17 AM
The only U.S.A. tv on the cable is "CNN", and is not displayed 24 h. :sigh: :thumbsdn:

blue_lateral
11-26-2005, 01:40 AM
Cool set! :thmbsp:

John

compucat
11-26-2005, 01:45 PM
That's great set. It reminds me so much of the British TVs when I was a kid and I lived in Scotland. I love the way the picture tube sticks out of the cabinet slightly. They never adopted that style here in the US, too bad.

wa2ise
11-26-2005, 11:43 PM
The only U.S.A. tv on the cable is "CNN", and is not displayed 24 h. :sigh: :thumbsdn:

WHAT! No MTV? Actually you're not missing much since they stopped playing music videos most of the time. That and Beavis and Butthead.... :D

You're a SECAM country, yes? "System Entirely Contrary to the American Method" :D

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"The quality runs out when the name plate falls off"....

Telecolor 3007
06-21-2006, 04:31 AM
I think I found the G.D.R. that form which Telecolor 3007 was copyed :D (with licence) :smoke:
http://www.elektromuseum.de/inhalt/Die%20Geschichte%20des.htm

Pete Deksnis
06-21-2006, 06:56 AM
Very interesting. I wonder if the circuitry advanced more in those ten or so years than did the cabinetry.

Telecolor 3007
07-31-2008, 02:23 PM
The links from the 1st post will not work anymore.
Here is a new link: http://www.proradioantic.ro/?x=item&id_p=394

Kiwick
08-05-2008, 07:40 AM
is there an Italian Videocolor PIL crt in this set?

Telecolor 3007
08-06-2008, 03:13 PM
No, it's a "Toshiba". But there where also versions with "Videocolor" tubes (wasn't "Videocolor" an French company?).

Kiwick
08-06-2008, 05:25 PM
Videocolor was basically the Italian RCA subsidiary for CRT production, it was later sold to Thomson, i think in the late 80s or early 90s

In 1973 they began to make "precision in line" CRTs under both RCA and Videocolor brands...

Telecolor 3007
08-22-2008, 02:14 PM
That's great set. It reminds me so much of the British TVs when I was a kid and I lived in Scotland. I love the way the picture tube sticks out of the cabinet slightly. They never adopted that style here in the US, too bad.

I've noticed the same thing. However, I heard that the set was copyed from an West-German tv set. On one other hand, I saw an "Toshiba" that look almost like the Telecolor, except for the push-buttons; the tv was in a yard where the sold furniture, and they didn't let me take pics of it.

Telecolor 3007
08-30-2008, 01:56 PM
VERY BAD NEWS: the picture tube (C.R.T.) is worn out... It'll still work on, but it'll not have the beautifoul colours and good image of a better tube. One source for warning the tube where the bad capacitors...
I hope I will be able to get an unsed tube (maybe a "Videocolor" one)

Telecolor 3007
12-11-2014, 07:19 PM
Updates (after so many years).
1) The tv is working condition again. I don't think that the tube is worned out. I've replaced the color decodor (the color decoder and the flyback transformers are classical problems of this set);
2) Have to replace in the future other electronic card (the tv is built like a computer - it haves the suply stuff and the basic card with some cards put into it - except for the tuning stuff, whic is separated), 'cause is a small strip on the base of the screen that dosen't have image, but it haves to things that are moving around;
3) The imagie is very flickering - it wans't too much of a set.
There where some version of this - 4106 and 4507 and unleass one of it had D.I.N. V.C.R. input (the 3007 has only R.F. input);
4) I've cleaned the front of the with sanitary alchool and it's looking brighter now;
5) It wasn't bought on 25 of December 1984, but on 7 th of December 1984;
6) On the "repair" manual of the 3006 (a version of 3007) they are saying there where models that used "R.C.A." picture tubes!!! (never seen one);
7) You can find some images of the 3007 with google. Some people are selling such tvs nowdays. Unfortneley for U.S.A. collectors, the tv is only P.A.L./SECAM and it works at 220 Volts @ 50 Hz.
https://www.google.ro/search?q=telecolor+3007&biw=1152&bih=717&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hEKKVLTeIsvqUvachJAL&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Sandy G
12-11-2014, 07:38 PM
Be CAREFUL workin' on it, OK ?

zenith2134
12-11-2014, 07:47 PM
Very Nice TV!

Telecolor 3007
12-12-2014, 02:29 AM
@ SandyG : I didn't repair the set. A repiar man did it. But I watched a little bit while he did it.
And if you look from the rear to the front of the set, all the electronical cards have the components on the right side... the color decoder haves them on the left, but can be put with them on the right... only thing: the colors won't work right.
And one stupid thing: the dark blue wire is for the red gun and the red? one for the blue gun; the green one is for the green gun. Other sets can have wires of different colors. I'm meaning the 3 wires that are leaving from the video card to the electronic guns.

dieseljeep
12-12-2014, 08:48 AM
That's great set. It reminds me so much of the British TVs when I was a kid and I lived in Scotland. I love the way the picture tube sticks out of the cabinet slightly. They never adopted that style here in the US, too bad.

I have two identical Grundig sets, made for the U.S. market, strictly NTSC.
They were built in Austria and have Toshiba CRT's and protrude past the mask, like the British and European sets.
It's strange that the Japanese sets sold in Europe, weren't made this way.
I don't remember seeing an Australian built set, with this feature. :scratch2:

Telecolor 3007
12-24-2014, 07:15 PM
Guess who (the picture is taken around december 1984-1985)

http://i59.tinypic.com/24ex0tk.jpg

ChrisW6ATV
12-25-2014, 06:24 PM
Already adjusting electronic equipment at a young age. Very nice!

bgadow
01-01-2015, 10:04 PM
Telecolor, very nice picture!

Can you tell me anything about TV sets or other electronics made in Latvia?

Telecolor 3007
01-02-2015, 04:26 AM
You mean the ones made in the capital of the country (Riga) - by V.E.F.
Don't know if they made tv sets, but theyr radios where very apreciated. From the ones with tubes to the ones with semiconductors. <<Selena>> radios can be still find in use today.

bgadow
01-02-2015, 09:39 PM
I'll have to read more about V.E.F.

It's a long story but in short, my birth mother was originally from Latvia. I discovered this in 2014 and am still trying to learn about the country. I'd enjoy someday having a radio that was made there.

wa2ise
01-03-2015, 11:04 PM
It's a long story but in short, my birth mother was originally from Latvia.

I once had a boss who was born in one of those Baltic countries. I said something to the effect that I saw a map of Europe and it looks like it's a state like New Jersey, New York or Connecticut in the USSR. That put me on his shjt list. Hey I didn't know that those countries were conquered in a hostile takeover. I'm a generic white trash American, I'm not gonna know every detail about every other country of the world. He turned out to be a bad boss anyway, but not as bad as the one I had a Bell Labs... :thumbsdn: But I have had good bosses.

bgadow
01-04-2015, 07:58 PM
The story goes that my grandparents, who were upper middle class in prewar Latvia, had to go into exile when Russia & Germany started playing ping pong with the country during WW2. Slowly they worked their way to the US, always hoping to return home. Sadly, I don't think my grandfather (who I never met) lived to see a free Latvia again.

Some pretty nice looking VAF radios on ebay, mostly 80s era. Someday I'll break down and buy one. My wife suggested maybe a European VK'er might want to trade me even up for something American.

Telecolor 3007
01-27-2015, 04:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUXNN3lkZZA&feature=youtu.be

maxhifi
01-27-2015, 04:44 PM
LOTS of Soviet electronics were made in Riga, speakers, reel to reel and cassette tape decks, moving magnet hi-fi cartridges, radios, record players, TVs, etc. Some of it is really crap, and other stuff is surprisingly good and even innovative. I think that a part of the Soviet 5 year plan must have been to set up Riga as a consumer electronics manufacturing area, because that's what they seem to have done. I would like to get my hands on some of their better MM cartridges, just to try out in my SME. They are more or less Ortofon knock offs, but what the heck, worth a try!

I have one Latvian radio, which I picked up in Belarus about a decade ago, a Selga-405as per this link http://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rw6ase.narod.ru%2F It is an unremarkable AM transistor radio, which does a decent job of entertaining me in the evening. I changed all the electrolytic capacitors, and a couple of transistors to lower noise.

I think globalization has made the world homogeneous and less interesting. I was recently in Moscow and struggled to dig up any sort of local electronics. I ended up finding an old radio with the Soviet FM band made by Horizont (Minsk, Belarus), but couldn't turn up any cool newly made local products like they had even ten years ago. Electronics stores now are basically like best buy but with everything in Cyrillic.

One thing which may be handy to know about Soviet electronics. The three digits following the model name mean something. The first digit is the "class", the second two are the model number.

Professional level equipment gets a number like 015, where 0 is the highest class, if it was 115 it would be is first class, or the best consumer level, 2 is still very good, 3 is decent, and 4 is the lowest. They have government standards (GOST) which define performance parameters which determine what class a piece of equipment falls into, and they are directly related to performance specifications. Most consumer equipment is 3rd or 4th class. These numbers will give you an idea what to look for. My Selga radio is 4th class, or the worst... it probably got this rating because it's not very sensitive and has a small speaker.

bgadow
01-27-2015, 09:10 PM
Excellent information, maxhifi! I think one radio I looked at was a 340 or some such. The rating system will make my eventual purchase easier.

maxhifi
01-28-2015, 11:45 AM
Excellent information, maxhifi! I think one radio I looked at was a 340 or some such. The rating system will make my eventual purchase easier.

Yeah and don't be turned off the lower class items entirely - a lower class means lower performance but not junk. For example a portable cassette deck and a studio recorder are evaluated by the same standards basically, so a mono portable cassette deck gets 4th class and a studio recorder 0. It doesn't mean the portable cassette recorder is bad quality, it just means that judged objectively it has worse performance than the studio recorder does.